Super Bowl 58: #3 Kansas City Chiefs vs #1 San Francisco 49ers (-1)
Kansas City Chiefs: 11-6, AFC West Champion
WC: 26-7 v Miami
Divisional: 27-24 @ Buffalo
Conference: 17-10 @ Baltimore
Super Bowl Record: 3-2
Last Appearance: Super Bowl 57 (38-35 W v Philadelphia)
How they got here:
If you followed along Kansas City's offense has done everything imaginable to ruin this for Kermit and the Swifties. So many drops, Toney lining up offsides to force them to play on the road, despite an incredible defense this really seemed like the year Kansas City was finally going to be not remotely close to the best team in the AFC. Then they get into the playoffs and put in some ****ing work. Mahomes scored 14 points in the first 2 drives, a field goal since and that was good enough to beat the ****ing Ravens at home. Pretty eye-opening no matter how you look at it.
Mahomes played on the road in the playoffs for the first time in his career (which in it of itself is an insane stat for a guy who is now playing in his 4th Super Bowl) and they put in work. They played on the road for the second time in his career. And they put in work. Patrick Mahomes remains the only active NFL player with equity to go down as the greatest to ever play.
San Francisco 49ers: 12-5, NFC West Champion
WC: Bye
Divisional: 24-21 v Green Bay
Conference: 34-31 v Detroit
Super Bowl Record: 5-2
Last Appearance: Super Bowl 54 (31-20 L v Kansas City)
Last Win: Super Bowl 29 (49-26 v San Diego)
How they got here:
Holy ****ing ****.
The Niners started the season 5-0 and in doing so looked like a generationally dominant team that was going to run away with the NFL.
Then they lost Trent and Deebo, lost 3 straight and looked like total ass doing so causing everyone to assume they were frauds.
Then they won 6 straight and in doing so looked like a generationally dominant team and Brock ****ing Purdy was the runaway betting favorite to win the MVP.
Then Christmas happened.
But all's well that ends well and they made the playoffs as the #1 seed.
Then the Green Bay game happened.
For 50 minutes Bork played like I would and the Niners looked finished. Then he pulled a hell of a comeback out of his ass and they won.
Then the Detroit game happened.
I literally just watched this game a couple hours ago and I still can't explain to you what happened and how except that somehow someway the Niners won. And that's cool!
What makes this Super Bowl so compelling
I can see why people hate both of these franchises for a thousand different reasons, but brace yourself for what will be the most watched televised sporting event (possibly most watched television event of any kind) in American history. And it probably lives up to that. Obviously the Swift element is...a thing. And we are going to have 2 weeks of lead-up for that which will be...a thing. But put that aside for a second and there are stories galore.
Whatever you think of Brock Purdy, last year he was the last pick of the draft. This year he is starting in the Super Bowl. Could he have pulled this off if any other team drafted him? Of course not. He fell ass backwards into an epic situation and the Niners fell ass backwards into a lucky draft pick. Trading 3 1s to move up in the most overrated draft in history only to have your franchise QB be some random guy from Iowa who only got the job because the two guys in front of him went down? If this weren't shoved down your throat for the better part of a year and a half it's the coolest story since Kurt Warner, bagman, who only got the job because the two guys in front of him went down. Btw, this time last year the guy broke his ****ing elbow and yet here we are.
Holy **** Patrick Mahomes. 6 years as a starter. Has made it to the AFC Championship 6 times. Has made it to the Super Bowl 4 times. Has a chance to get his 3rd ring and the ****er is only 28. He won't have Brady level longevity but we are witnessing absolute greatness like most of us have not seen in our lifetime. It sucks if you are a fan of any other team but the Chefs but still.
Rumors circulating this may be the last ride of the Walrus. Historically the man is both massive and massively underrated. His work with Philadelphia was both amazing and unlucky. His work with Kansas City has been nothing short of legendary. 4 Super Bowl appearances in 5 years with the potential for 3 wins. I would argue he is the actual greatest coach in NFL history.
Which is a good segue into the modern day iteration of Philadelphia Walrus. Ever since the Falcons implosion I would argue no coach in the NFL has more more criticism despite more success than Kyle Shanahan. The guy is an objectively brilliant offensive mind and in his 7 years as Niners coach they have gone to the NFC Championship 4 of the last 5 years and twice have made it to the Super Bowl. And they did this with QB luminaries like the Womp and the Bork. Kyle schemes like nobody in the NFL can but every time the Niners fell short it all fell on him despite the fact that they overperformed to get where they were in the first place.
This game is a rematch of Super Bowl 54 which still hurts my ****ing soul (Bosa was held on 4th and Tyreek, never believe different). These two teams don't have much history but the history they do have is massive. SB 54 kickstarted the Chiefs dynasty and the failure of Womp to close it kickstarted the Niners neverending hunt for a franchise QB that went from maybe Brady to maybe Rodgers to maybe Lance to....Purdy? Lots of trajectories changed 4 years ago and we come full circle.
Why the Chiefs will win the Super Bowl
This defense is good. Like, really good. Like, really really good. Pacheco has stepped up and the Niners run defense has been horrendous so far in the playoffs. Plus, you know, that Patrick Mahomes guy. Mahomes smoked the Ravens for the first 2 drives on the road which is as comparable as there is to a theoretical matchup with the Niners defense. The Niners have been pretty lax the entire playoffs to start the game and 1. both games are at home and 2. neither teams they faced are as good as Kansas City. There is no margin of error for lazy bullshit and if the Niners bring that energy to the Super Bowl this is going to be a ****ing rout.
Why the 49ers will win the Super Bowl
The Niners have an overwhelming amount of talent. The biggest knock against them is that they could not play from behind and the entire playoffs they had to come from behind. Were they lucky against the Lions? Absolutely. But they proved that even down 17 points they have a QB who is not going to be overwhelmed by the moment and a defense that can still step up when needed even if they failed catastrophically. As good as the Chiefs defense is they have yet to face an offense like the 49ers with as much efficiency and talent across the board as they have. Plus this defense is ludicrously talented. They may take 30 minutes to get jumpstarted but once they do they are locked in.
Gentlemen, let us Super Bowl.
Do timeouts generally benefit offense or defense more?
If OT goes to OT2 do they get another set of timeouts, or only at OT3?
Thinking being, timeouts don't seem that beneficial. If your defense is gassed, the smart play might be to use your timeouts on the defensive end to give them a break between plays.
Yeah, that's true. Obviously a much bigger deal in other playoff games since the SB is often in a dome. I'd actually prefer they didn't, so the team losing can pick the side and mitigate the impact of the coinflip unless you have a Pats Bills MNF wind game.
Yeah, that's true. Obviously a much bigger deal in other playoff games since the SB is often in a dome. I'd actually prefer they didn't, so the team losing can pick the side and mitigate the impact of the coinflip unless you have a Pats Bills MNF wind game.
In new ot format if kicking/receiving is pretty close, wind game correct choice would be to pick side.
Edit: seems the kicking team gets to choose side. So in a windy game, winner seems best served to kick.
Did anyone hear if the ref asked Warner if he wanted to defer, like they do at the beginning of the game? Because that would get weird. Or did he just say do you want to kick or receive?
Anyone know if they have a halftime after 2 OTs? Or do they just keep switching sides?
does the clock matter for anything? if not, why not just rid of it
They flip sides of the field so really means nothing last night. And I guess by reading that, if somehow the Chiefs had a 52 minute possession and the 4th quarter ran out the game would end, but I'm not even certain after reading that.
His players admitted they did not know the rules, including Warner IIRC (who called "tails again").
One can debate the strength of this evidence but how could Kyle think that not telling the players the OT rules would serve in the team's best interest?
Kyle's SB points scored record with the lead:
SB 51: 0-31
SB 54: 0-21
SB 58: 9-22
Total: 9-74
Couldn't even make it 17-13. Curse is real
They flip sides of the field so really means nothing last night. And I guess by reading that, if somehow the Chiefs had a 52 minute possession and the 4th quarter ran out the game would end, but I'm not even certain after reading that.
The playoff rules force the teams to play until someone wins with no chance for a tie. If 4 periods or quarters are played in overtime and the game is still tied, then a new overtime is created with a new coin toss and they play until a winner is declared under the same rules as the first 4 overtime periods.
His players admitted they did not know the rules, including Warner IIRC (who called "tails again").
One can debate the strength of this evidence but how could Kyle think that not telling the players the OT rules would serve in the team's best interest?
Kyle's SB points scored record with the lead:
SB 51: 0-31
SB 54: 0-21
SB 58: 9-22
Total: 9-74
Yea no one--including kyle--can ever convince me he knew the rules cuz if he did they're not taking the ball. And the players not knowing the new rules is the frosting on the cake of that argument. Watching this unfold live, the instant they chose to receive I said to my gf "omg they don't know the new rules." I used the word unfathomable multiple times itt to describe this.
Totally unrelated but just thinking back to SB LI, we're talking about the OC who had the Pats dead to rights up 8 with less than 5 min left after Jones made that awesome catch at the Pats 22 yard line. Everyone and their grandma knew if the Falcons ran 3 times and kicked a fg the game was virtually over. Shanahan found a way to **** that up. When it comes to the biggest stage in sports, dude certainly has a knack for the unfathomable.
Final Nielsen ratings
Avg Viewers: 120.25 million
Rating: 42.1
Share: 81
Rating is the percentage of all TVs tuned into a show
Share is the percentage of TVs in use watching the show
So 81% of people watching TV were watching the SB at some time.
The 42.1 rating is about the middle of the pack for SBs. The record is 49.1 SB XVI in 1982.
Before yesterday I thought 49ers should be favored. After a game where it felt like all the small stuff went in SFs favor (ball placement, soft penalties,..) I'm pretty sure if they played again next Sunday it would be a pick'em.
Soft penalties? Wat? Aside from the one blatant holding call what are you talking about?
The most peanlized O-Line in the season got 0! penalties, despite some pretty obvious holds. Im not blaming the refs, but to say SF was favored in the penalty game is absurd when KC eats 0 Oline holding penalties and the most diaciplined Olineman in the game got hit with back to back penalties.
There was a reddit post about that but basically a team averaging 1.5 holding penalties a game getting zero isn't that shocking.
On the topic of refs I feel like deebo? Would have gotten a pass interference call in the end zone if he raised his arm through the hold so he was actually impeded instead of just theoretically impeded.
Chiefs o-line allowed to basically do whatever they wanted. I saw 3 blatant missed holding calls.
Chiefs o-line hasn’t been called for a single holding in their 3 Super Bowl wins.
13 quarters, zero holding penalties. Nothing to see here.
as if and despite the postmortem aidsnalysis..
Campion del Mundial
Chiefs o-line allowed to basically do whatever they wanted. I saw 3 blatant missed holding calls.
Chiefs o-line hasn’t been called for a single holding in their 3 Super Bowl wins.
13 quarters, zero holding penalties. Nothing to see here.
Yes. The NFL is deeply concerned about making the *checks notes* Kansas City Chiefs, that bastion of pure NFL history and huge money market, win the Super Bowl.
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CBF to get into this dumb argument lol, yes you're right it's all rigged.
