LeBron > Jordan GOAT Super AIDS Containment, solved #22999 post by Matt R. (addendum #23174)

Montrealcorp is worse than fallguy, and that's hard to do.

Fallguy repeats the same cherry-picked, biased viewpoints but at least he stays on point.

Montreal is just lost all the time.

his posts aren't even coherent, it's like you need advil to read them or you get a headache.

Well at last I learn something today .
Warriors with KD in 2017 and 2018 were weaker than warriors in 2016 without KD.

An argument relying on the assertion GSW were better without Durant is probably not worthy of further discussion.

Slammed that alleyoop home!

In case other people are wondering about this, the Warriors did get considerably better after adding KD - the 16-17 Warriors team had an even higher net rating than the 15-16 team, despite playing their top players fewer minutes. The problem is that they got worse each year - the 17-18 team wasn't nearly as good as the 16-17 team, even accounting for the fact that Curry played only 51 games. The 18-19 team was even worse.

One way to think about this is that the 15-16 Warriors were +10.4/100 and the 16-17 Warriors were +7.2/100 even without KD. The 17-18 Warriors were +5.1/100 without KD. The 18-19 Warriors were -4.3/100 without KD. Treating the 18-19 Warriors without KD as though they were comparable to the 15-16 Warriors is absurd, it wasn't the same team, not even close. It's important to understand that basketball is a team sport and it's not about just one or two guys. The league environment also matters.

Try to keep up.

Candybar boatracing these ignorant ****ers itt 👍

You're the numbers guy to look it up, but isn't that what happened with the Bulls' second threepeat too? If so, that makes even more sense as they were getting longer in the tooth comparatively.

Which directly played into the dominance of that 72 win team (expansion).

Also, the 18-19 Warriors' top 5 players by minutes played (Curry/KD/Draymond/Klay/Iggy) combined for 69 games played (nice) the following season - Curry: 5, KD: 0, Draymond: 43, Klay: 0, Iggy: 21 - seems like pretty strong evidence that the team was physically falling apart by this point due to consecutive Finals runs.

that would matters IF u considered the cavs 2016 at the same level as the raptors in 2019 .
if the cavs were a little better then toronto
while the warriors were a little better when they faced the cavs,
then relatively u end up the same.

You know who didn’t fall apart with consecutive Finals runs?

The GOAT 🐐. LeBron James

^^^ proof the lying bum reads every syllable of my posts and wishes he was me

I don't believe anyone ITT wishes they were a bum with no job and no hobbies who peaked in high school.

Damn you know I was just about to say this.

Nah, nice try tho.

Was this your assertion? If so enough said.

To be fair, I'm a curious type so I probably wouldn't mind switching places for like a day just to see what it feels like to be a mentally ill, paranoid angry bum with weird grudges. My life at this point is a little too textbook, standard American dream stuff you know?

Who are you talking to?

It is certainly true that the playoffs can be a war of attrition, and often against better teams, better defenses, and more intense defenses than non-playoff games. Also that scorers themselves are required to play more intense defense, thus furthering the attrition factor. There is no shortage of examples of superstars being very inefficient in the post-season, even while spearheading a title. There is a different standard, similar to baseball post-season when you can't use regular season performance standards as equivalent to post-season when facing great pitching staffs.

Pippen played thru a pretty vicious defensive era, and some of those playoff series were more life football games. In the war of attrition, standards change.

For instance we could say Kobe had horrendous offensive efficiency in the 2010 NBA Finals, was lousy statistically ... or we could say he spearheaded the title offensively and defensively.

Legendary Knights of the SkypeZilla think alike!

lol you wish you were noticeable, like my hero LeBron.

you wish that everywhere you went people were like "who's that guy".. "i wonder who that guy is" and stared the **** out of you or even approached you and said some dumb ****.. and get hit on by women literally everywhere you went, all day long.. your pick of the litter.

you're probably completely unimpressive and unnoticeable.. that's the only way someone could play the weasely games you play, aka "didn't read": when really you're scrutinizing every post and looking for something stupid to say as a deflection because you can't address the substance.. that's pretty pathetic and it stems from a need for attention or something, I don't know and I don't care.. I come on here to set you guys straight on hoops.. nothing more.. nothing less.. because none of you guys ever played past HS and don't know what's it's like to guard these guys.. And you're apparently brainwashed by LeMedia and guys like Skip, Stephen A, Shannon, and the rest of the Lebron cabal.

The attrition factor is based on effective playoff offense that makes an opposing defense work, so they have less capacity for offense (less likely to "get hot" offensively due to being more worn down defensively).. The best defense is a good offense - a tenet of all competition.. that's why brand of ball is important - it wears teams down and wins the attrition battle.

Unfortunately, that's exactly the issue with Lebron-ball - the ball-dominance lets a defense rest, so they have more capacity for offense and "get hot" like the 09' Magic, 11' Mavs, 14' Spurs, 17' Warriors, or 23' Nuggets - these are all basically blowouts where everyone chalked up the losses to the opponent just "getting hot" - most people don't realize that teams routinely getting hot on ball-dominant teams because they get to rest on defense and ultimately are applying more pressure than they're facing and getting worn down less than the opponent.

A great example was when Magic tried to carry the scoring load after Kareem left in 1990 - it was too ball-dominant at a 30 ppg volume, so he got his doors blown off by an underdog with superior brand of ball (KJ and the underdog Suns).. This is similar to Lebron's teams routinely getting blown away by superior brands of ball because Bron-ball loses the attrition battle against the top teams.

btw, Pippen had the worst efficiency on 3 different title runs - I always bring up 96' and 98', but he had another record-breaking run for low efficiency in the 93' Playoffs - he had the lowest TS, PER, BPM, WS/48, and VORP of any winning sidekick on that run - look it up - that was arguably his worst run when you consider that league-wide efficiency was still quite solid in 93' before the drop-off from 94' to-basically 05, so Pippen's 50% TS for that run was probably more below the average than his 96' and 98' runs.

One of these days Candybar might admit that the Warriors may have just been bored during the 18-19 season and that was the main reason that for the downturn in numbers. You think that being a Klay injury away from (likely) winning the NBA Championship that year even without KD, and then winning one three years later without KD (the first opportunity when all 3 stars were fit again) would be enough evidence, but not for our man Candybar.

Wow, this is great stuff, seems like I might have been completely on-point with your mom comment. Female approval is really important to you huh? Did your mom not praise you enough? Was another child her favorite? Did she cheat on your dad? Tell me more.