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2023 NFL Regular Season

As a niners fan I have spent this entire offseason in a silent rage

The last 20 years of being a niners fan has been an a

19 August 2023 at 07:02 PM
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Maybe I’m misremembering it because I spent the entire first half enraged and depressed but I remember constantly thinking goff is doing literally nothing special, just a lot of underneath routes and some YAC and when they did try to go deep he was nowhere close to the target usually


by StoppedRainingMen m

Maybe I’m misremembering it because I spent the entire first half enraged and depressed but I remember constantly thinking goff is doing literally nothing special, just a lot of underneath routes and some YAC and when they did try to go deep he was nowhere close to the target usually

seems like a system quarterback to me. game manager. with elite coaching and tools around him.


by Booker Wolfbox m

Were we watching the same game? Yes, he short armed a throw where he was about to get lit up. He couldn’t make a pure arm strength throw on the run to save a 4th down. He threw away one or two balls safely when guys were not open. Everything else was on target. Goff was more than acceptable and given the general dearth of competent QBs having him around for a few more years

Don’t forget about third round pick 26 year old second year QB Hendon Hooker!


SF -1
O/U - 47.5

Wouldn't surprise me if this ends up a PICKEM. Not very common for the SB.


by esad m

SF -1
O/U - 47.5

Wouldn't surprise me if this ends up a PICKEM. Not very common for the SB.

Last year kc was also a 1 pt underdog


I get why KC was an underdog at Buff and Balt. I do not get why they're an underdog to Brock Purdy on a neutral field. But I'll take it as it seems to bring out the best in our best players.

Mahomes has now gone the entire postseason w/o making a turnover-worthy play.


by tarheels2222 m

Don’t forget about third round pick 26 year old second year QB Hendon Hooker!

If Hooker had any game experience, sure. But since he sat the whole year coming back from his ACL, he’s nothing but 3rd string for another year.


by suzzer99 m

I get why KC was an underdog at Buff and Balt. I do not get why they're an underdog to Brock Purdy on a neutral field. But I'll take it as it seems to bring out the best in our best players.

Mahomes has now gone the entire postseason w/o making a turnover-worthy play.

This is the first SB where Mahomes has had even close to as good a defense as his opponent, you could even argue the chiefs defense is better than the 49ers defense who were a few drops away from giving up 40 to Detroit and got gashed by the same ravens team who the chiefs held to 10 points, and then on the other side of the ball you have a top 2 qb OAT vs Purdy who played very good yesterday but still had one int and another int that got dropped, the line makes no sense to me either. Obviously SF is more than capable of winning with the talent they have but more than 50% of the time?


by suzzer99 m

I get why KC was an underdog at Buff and Balt. I do not get why they're an underdog to Brock Purdy on a neutral field. But I'll take it as it seems to bring out the best in our best players.

Mahomes has now gone the entire postseason w/o making a turnover-worthy play.

Deep down I knew if we turned the ball over more than KC it was going to take a lot to win. 3-0 in hindsight would be very little chance. But never did it feel like Mahomes didn't have control or was close to a big mistake.

Don't turn the ball over is a pretty simple recipe to win a lot of games.


by Booker Wolfbox m

If Hooker had any game experience, sure. But since he sat the whole year coming back from his ACL, he’s nothing but 3rd string for another year.

Haha, I know. I was just being a smart ass.

I don't think Detroit has any other option but to extend Goff with their current window. Hopefully he's willing to take a somewhat team friendly deal. I'm guessing they'll actually front load Goff's extension due to guys like ARSB, Hutch, LaPorta, Gibbs, etc., all still being on rookie deals.

Although, I'm guessing ARSB will be expecting an extension this offseason, even if it won't kick in until 2025.


by suzzer99 m

I get why KC was an underdog at Buff and Balt. I do not get why they're an underdog to Brock Purdy on a neutral field. But I'll take it as it seems to bring out the best in our best players.

It seems the books don't want the action from SRM mortgaging his house 100% on 9ers +1. (or wtv on ML)

All kidding aside, I expect the late money will be on KC like last year. where PHI was -1.5/2 most of the week until game time, when KC was just slightly worse than pk.


i've never understood the "he's not the best qb in the league you can't extend him" arguments


by tarheels2222 m

Haha, I know. I was just being a smart ass. I don't think Detroit has any other option but to extend Goff with their current window. Hopefully he's willing to take a somewhat team friendly deal. I'm guessing they'll actually front load Goff's extension due to guys like ARSB, Hutch, LaPorta, Gibbs, etc., all still being on rookie deals.Although, I'm guessing ARSB will be exp

St Brown is incredible and deserves a deal. And he only has 1 yr left so it’s a must for them.

Given their cap space I would think Sewell will get a long term deal this offseason as well as Goff. But idk given his 5YO maybe it’s smarter to push Sewell down the line another year


by suzzer99 m

I get why KC was an underdog at Buff and Balt. I do not get why they're an underdog to Brock Purdy on a neutral field.

Because people who set odds don't get caught up in the moment and make their decisions based on emotion. For example: they, unlike a lot of fans, will remember how a few weeks ago the Chiefs were seen as not very good and were a longshot to make the super bowl. So they'll be able to connect the dots there and realize the Chiefs are running really good right now and the universe hasn't fundamentally changed.


the universe is fundamentally changing every nanosecond

just saying


by ethbtc88 m

Because people who set odds don't get caught up in the moment and make their decisions based on emotion. For example: they, unlike a lot of fans, will remember how a few weeks ago the Chiefs were seen as not very good and were a longshot to make the super bowl. So they'll be able to connect the dots there and realize the Chiefs are running really good right now and the universe

strange how teams like the cowboys always "run bad" in the playoffs and GOATed QBs like Mahomes always "run good" when the games start to matter.


by Hellmuth was right m

strange how teams like the cowboys always "run bad" in the playoffs and GOATed QBs like Mahomes always "run good" when the games start to matter.

Are you saying the oddsmakers had it wrong?

How much money did you bet on the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl getting +2000 a few weeks ago? If were able to reverse time and run it again - how much would you bet on the next simulation?

They got lucky. Period. This is exactly what oddsmakers get and fans don't. Fans think it's all about who is the best player/team.




by rickroll m

i've never understood the "he's not the best qb in the league you can't extend him" arguments

I mean the QBs in the Super Bowl are the best to ever do it and a guy making a couple hundred thousand


you fool! patrick mahomes isn't actually good at football, he's just really, really, really, really, really lucky


by StoppedRainingMen m

I mean the QBs in the Super Bowl are the best to ever do it and a guy making a couple hundred thousand

yeah so i think the argument should be "don't pay goff like he's pat mahomes" not "don't resign goff"

that i'm 100% onboard with (and yes I get that it likely means losing him in free agency

but a reasonably paid Goff on the Lions next year will certainly work out better than whichever scraps they pick up for a tiny contract or end up drafting


There are obvious arguments for the 49ers being slightly favored.

But being the "luckier" team to make it to the SB certainly isn't one of them.


by rickroll m

yeah so i think the argument should be "don't pay goff like he's pat mahomes" not "don't resign goff"

that i'm 100% onboard with (and yes I get that it likely means losing him in free agency

but a reasonably paid Goff on the Lions next year will certainly work out better than whichever scraps they pick up for a tiny contract or end up drafting

To be clear, my premise is based on the fact that the qb market is absolutely out of control. Cousins apparently is talking 90/2

If you can retain goff for 30 mil or less per sure go for it, you almost made the Super Bowl with him already. But if you’re going 40+ as I assume the market will command, even with a heavily frontloaded contract, I just don’t get why you make that investment and middle your team especially with Johnson leaving and weather god due for an extension


Goff deserves all that money, he played really good yesterday. He was the better qb in the game by far. His receviers screwed him plenty. "System qb" or "have no choice but to extend" is way off the mark. He was slingin it. Pay him his money or be cursed.


15 year, never ending qb draft busts, and an itchy butt while trying to sleep.


i probably missed it, but anyone know how much the cap is projected to go up next season?

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