English Premier League 2024-25
2024-2025 EPL Preview
Man City have set another record with 115 charges of financial shenanigans and also managed to win a 4th PL title in a row becoming the first team to do so narrowly beating out arsenal who took it to the last day this year. They accomplished this by rattling off an absurd 33 games unbeaten in all competitions making it 6 titles in 7 years for the Citizens.
Some pictures from the aftermath:
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Golden boot winner:
Erling Haaland
Golden Glove:
David Raya
Player of the Season:
Phil Foden
PFA Young Player of the Season:
Cole Palmer
2024-25 Point Spread Markets:
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Title Odds:
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Top 4 Odds:
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Relegation Odds:
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League Adjusted xgDiff per game table (LOL UNITED):
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Season Preview:
Man City and Arsenal have distanced themselves as the clear favorites for the title. With Arsenal closing the gap and beating Man City on xG could this be the year that they get over the line? There are some large error bars on Liverpool with klopp retiring and Salah getting older, will they be able to insert themselves in the title race again like they did last year?
For top 4/5 can Aston Villa repeat last years feat thanks to the normal culprits being completely incompetent or will one of Chelsea/United get their **** together finally (hopefully not)? Spurs went full Spurs throwing the match vs City to stop arsenal from winning the title while costing themselves top 4 in the process, will they be in the race again despite doing no business at all in the summer to address squad needs?
The relegation fight as usual has the 3 promoted teams as favorites to go back down, but with PSR looming in the background could we see a surprise team relegated?
Reece James outpaced by Soler. If that’s the norm then the injuries might have taken their toll.
lol if that foul on Bowen had been committed on a Arsenal player you’d never have heard the end of it.
Hair was offside
We appear to have signed a Holding
Guehi is out of contract in 18 months too. I guess Palace can probably get close to £70m in the summer from someone, but when did anyone ever spend that kind of money on a CB and it turned out to be a great deal?
Van Dijk is the only example from the top of my head. Then ManU tried to emulate it with Slabhead
Ferdinand was about 30M iirc, a sum that’s probably more than 70M in today’s market. But there haven’t been many such successes.
Best value CB transfer of all time was Sol.
Guehi is out of contract in 18 months too. I guess Palace can probably get close to £70m in the summer from someone, but when did anyone ever spend that kind of money on a CB and it turned out to be a great deal?
VVD
Ruben Dias
Gvardiol is a CB though doesn't play there
Are the only three that come to mind in terms of raw numbers.
Players just cost more now though.
VVD
Ruben Dias
Gvardiol is a CB though doesn't play there
Are the only three that come to mind in terms of raw numbers.
Players just cost more now though.
John Stones was about 50m, right? That might be City’s best defensive signing in recent years.
As much as a twat as he is both during his playing career and as a pundit, I still think Rio must be the top CB signing.
John Stones was about 50m, right? That might be City’s best defensive signing in recent years.
Ah yeah.
I think Nesta was like 30m 25ish years ago which is definitely more than 80m in today's football money too.
I'm surprised we bid 70m for Guehi but I do like the intention is shows. We've spent SO MUCH money in the last c. 5 years but a lot of it has been very badly spent. Glad that we're willing to continue taking risks.
Also learned today that Kevin Danso counts as home grown despite being born in Austria and of Ghanaian descent, so that's nice.
Think every Spurs fan will tell you that our CMs are the biggest gap in the squad, while they're fine I don't think any of Sarr, Bentancur, and certainly not Bissouma are good enough there. Squad players for the most part sure. Maybe Archie Gray is good enough who knows.
How much did Vidic cost?
£7m
then vidic was one of the best CB signings of all time
Bargain
Who was JT's partner during that 04/05 season, Carvalho iirc?
Yeah. He was Ok in the early days of his career when he was keen to make a good impression, but it wasn't long before all the bitter pro-Manure aggression surfaced and in tandem with their decline as a club began to dominate his so-called opinions.
The real losers are all of us. Had he succeeded as a coach we now wouldn't have to listen to the worst pundit ever.
This.
That podcast they do with him, Wright, Keane and a guest where they just sit around telling stories and stuff is honestly pretty good and basically what most ex-footballers should be doing instead of any sort of thinking or god forbid analysis.
John Stones was about 50m, right? That might be City’s best defensive signing in recent years.
As much as a twat as he is both during his playing career and as a pundit, I still think Rio must be the top CB signing.
Stones has been very decent, but yes, Rio was a stellar signing.
The point is for £70m+ you want an absolute Rolls Royce at the back, not just someone who is a solid defender.
Stones has been very decent, but yes, Rio was a stellar signing.
The point is for £70m+ you want an absolute Rolls Royce at the back, not just someone who is a solid defender.
That seems a little bit like our OAP minds just not being able to keep up with inflation (and in particular, football inflation). We remember Ronaldo going to Real for £80m and thinking "that's about right for the 2nd best player in the world". These days £70-80m does not even come close to getting you a sure fire hit.
I think that also has to do with how the sheer amount of money in football has fundamentally changed the transfer game wrt number of moves and squad depths. In the worst case scenario your new expensive striker only scored 10 goals, but still played, and then perhaps pulled himself together and/or moved on after a season or two.
Now within a month that new striker is benched altogether because the club have three more and simply cannot risk relegation or missing CL. He is considered a complete failure.
That seems a little bit like our OAP minds just not being able to keep up with inflation (and in particular, football inflation). We remember Ronaldo going to Real for £80m and thinking "that's about right for the 2nd best player in the world". These days £70-80m does not even come close to getting you a sure fire hit.
100% this.
When Rio came to Leeds he was the most expensive defender in the world at 18m.
He became the only player to do that twice when Man Utd payed 30m just 2 years later.
He’d be a 100m+ defender in today’s market.