NCAA Football 2025

I have no problem with people having differing opinions. I mean if somebody likes a 12 team playoff better than a 16th playoff I'm cool with that. I personally find the idea of a committee choosing between 10-2 teams utterly repulsive and expanding the playoffs a little bit to avoid that scenario puts me in a happy place. But I get it, not everyone is like me. What grinds my gears is people pretending there will be a real controversy at the 16/17th cutoff as if that's a real problem. Like there's gonna be some moral uproar when a 9-3 Missouri team gets left out. IMO anybody claiming that a 16 team playoff will have the same issues as a 12 team playoff either has an IQ somewhere in the double digits or they're not arguing in good faith.

There is a pretty good chance that 10-2 teams will be outside the top 15 (top 15 make the playoff assuming g5 has an auto bid). If the current top 12 plus Vandy, GTech, UVa, Miami, and either USC or Mich win out, they would all finish at 10-2 or better. Illinois and Mizzou are not likely to be any where near the 16/17 cutoff. Is this really that unlikely?

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Even if that is true, that's hardly a reason to do something the sport never needed to no benefit.

I meant to say 10-2 B1G/SEC teams (including 10-3 B1G/SEC championship game losers). I don't want a committee deciding between those teams. I don't want them to have that kind of power. If some 10-2 Big 12 or ACC teams get ****ed in the process I'm ok with that. I don't like it, but I can deal with that.

I'm speaking hypothetically. Not referring to this year. I'm just saying in a 16 game playoff it will be a marginal program/mediocre team getting ****ed like an Illinois or a Missouri team. Take last year for an example. In a 16 playoff format the final spot would come down to a 9-3 South Carolina team, a 9-3 Ole Miss team, or a 10-2 BYU team, and it looks like the 10-2 BYU team would get screwed. That's fine cuz nobody cares (Anybody who claims to care--outside of BYU fans--will be lying). No real controversy. That's the way I want it. What I don't want is a committee choosing between a 10-2 Bama team and a 10-2 Oregon. That's a ridiculous travesty that needs to be avoided and a 16 team playoff solves that issue.

I perceive a benefit. A rather huge one imo. It's ok if you don't.

It's just not though. In this scenario, don't lose to Florida State or one of Washington or USC.

I guess a reason I do not agree with you is already teams are getting screwed/rewarded so much by vagaries of schedule that top 12 or top 16 does not mean that. As an example Illinois is clearly out with 3 losses. They also got two of their losses playing Ohio State and Indiana. Change their schedule to replace those with two bottom of the league teams and they likely would be a 1 loss team and a favorite to be in. OSU in the regular season will play 1 of the current top 5 in the Big 10, Indiana in the regular season will play 1, Oregon will play 2, USC will play 2, Michigan will play 2. Illinois played 3.

You guys are missing the point

the controversy is a feature, not a bug

the arguing generates buzz

it creates rooting interests in lots of games where you'd otherwise be neutral

it creates strong emotions, which sucks people in

nothing generates engagement like hammering the anger button

ND might not make it??? BAMA as the first team out?????

Well obviously that's where we have to agree to disagree. I think any team that navigates the SEC or the B1G and achieves a 10-2 record has had a great season that should be rewarded (I'm aware of outlier scheduling cases where that's not true, but they're rare enough to be irrelevant to me). If one doesn't accept that assumption then we reach an impasse and that's fine. To me a 10-2 Bama team that beat Georgia not getting into the playoffs would be a crime against humanity, but maybe I'm the snowflake here.

This is not a piece of unknown wisdom. We all know how our sick society works. I've heard this line my whole life. The fact that it can be used to support atrocious outcomes is reason enough to despise it and not take this justification seriously. I'm old enough to remember ND beating FSU in the game of the century and they unethically still rewarded FSU with the national title even though they both had the same record. I remember watching Penn State in 1994, one of the greatest teams I have ever seen. They beat a good--not great but good--Ohio State team 63-14. NOBODY has ever humiliated Ohio State like that since I've been watching college football. I was agape watching that entire game. That all-time PSU team didn't even get a share of the National Title. Instead they gave the whole thing to a team who could barely throw a forward pass. And of course they said controversy is good for the game, but it's bullshit. It's always been bullshit. The truth is too simple tho: College football is such an awesome sport it doesn't need manufactured controversy. Giving a committee the power to choose between a 10-2 Bama team and a 10-2 Oregon team doesn't make the sport better.

In for the Rainbows/Rebels already a better game than this ACC dud.

...until those 2 straight muffed punts by Florida State. That is precious

Notre Dame are up 21-0 and their offense hasn't seen the field yet lol

Is notre dame amazing

SC player saved the FG for Oregon by a "leaping" penalty. THe Trojan did not lift his hands or make any attempt to block the fg, he just stepped on a lineman.

OFC Oregon turns the missed FG into a TD and used up most of the time remaining in the half. The weather has to be the reason we didn't beat these guys by 24+.

They used the opposite logic in 1989 (ND better resume, lost H-H @Miami). IN 1993 FSU had a great schedule.

For the hypocrisy point, there's game control. ND dominated FSU for 3 qtrs and then the Noles mounted a furious comeback to force the last play. This year in a back and forth game Miami got the last score in the last minute at home.

It took this long to have an outside game matter so of course I get to watch USC blow one chance after another. It's now a blemish that ND onl beat these clowns by 10 at home.

Utah is gonna fall behind Miami and maybe even Vandy also even if they win

Committee is not gonna like giving up 500 rushing yards.

If an SEC team did this, it would "show how deep the SEC is where even a bottom tier team can run for 500 yards, and it shows how elite their offense is that they can still win even when the D gets gashed" but Utah is not gonna get any benefit of the doubt

LOLTah

I’m a Utah alum and believe me Whittingham lost any right to a benefit of the doubt long ago. He’s the Tomlin of college football.

Last chance for a brawl in Eugene.

ducks take care of business at home, big game next week in a beautiful setting overlooking union bay
huck the fuskies

He’s a fighter, that Kyle!

Go Cincy!