GOAT NBA Discussion: Biggest fraud poster: fallguy. Super AIDS Containment thread

Ohhhh BOY, here we GO. Y’all Bronsexuals about to get your little feelings hurt, so grab a tissue and a blankie before I send you to bed CRYING. Let’s talk FACTS, not FEELINGS, about why Michael Jeffrey "GOD IN HUMAN FORM" Jordan is light-years ahead of LeMickey "System Player" James.

First off, RINGZZZ. Yeah, I said it. SIX > FOUR. That’s MATH, and if you disagree, you hate numbers. Jordan went 6-0 in the Finals, never needed a Game 7, and NEVER had to jump ship to form a superteam with a dude who already won Finals MVP (Dwyane Wade, carry the 1, do the math). Meanwhile, LeChoke has a Finals record that looks like my grandma’s WiFi password (4-6), got SWEPT twice, and needed Ray Allen and Kyrie to save his legacy. PATHETIC.

Second, let’s talk competition. Jordan was out here eating real competition for breakfast—Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Charles Barkley, Karl Malone (ok, bad example, dude’s a weirdo), and Reggie Miller. LeBron? Oh, he got to stat-pad against the Toronto "Baby Dinosaurs" Raptors and the Celtics led by 27-year-old Al Horford. Tough. The one time he faced a team as dominant as the ’90s Bulls (2014 Spurs, 2017-2018 Warriors), he got BODIED.

Now, let’s talk "killer instinct," a concept that LeFlop wouldn’t recognize if it dunked on him. Jordan was out here hitting dagger shots, dropping 63 in the playoffs as a rookie, and playing through the FLU (or food poisoning, whatever, still GOAT behavior). Meanwhile, LeFraud was out here cramping in an air-conditioned building and calling himself the GOAT after a Mickey Mouse ring in the Bubble where the hardest opponent was TJ Warren.

And don’t even get me STARTED on defense. Jordan was a 9-time All-Defensive First Team player and a Defensive Player of the Year. LeBron out here playing defense like he’s conserving energy for his next commercial. One clip of Jordan locking up prime Clyde Drexler or Payton > LeBron’s ENTIRE defensive resume.

At the end of the day, the argument is OVER. Jordan is the undisputed GOAT, and LeBron is a glorified stat-padder who needed three superteams, league rule changes, and David Stern’s ghost to stay relevant. Now, go ahead and cry, LeMickey fans. I’ll wait. ⏳

OH, so NOW the Bronsexuals wanna talk "ADVANCED STATS"? Fine, let’s go FULL-NERD mode, even though I KNOW y’all only use stats when they benefit your little hero LeSystemPlayer. Let’s break this down like a first-grade math problem so even y’all can keep up.

1. Assisted Field Goal Rate (AFG%) – MJ Was SELF-MADE, LeBron is SYSTEM-DEPENDENT
You wanna talk about real offensive skill? Let’s look at assisted field goal rate (AFG%) because it EXPOSES how much a player relies on teammates to hand them their buckets. Jordan’s AFG% in his prime (1991-1998) on two-pointers? Roughly 35-40%. That means over 60% of his makes were unassisted. Translation? The man was a PURE ISO SCORER who got his buckets WITHOUT relying on teammates to spoon-feed him open looks.

Now let’s look at LeBron. His AFG% on two-pointers during his Miami and Cleveland years? 50-60%! That means over HALF of his shots came off an assist. This dude needed D-Wade, Kyrie, and Rondo to serve him points on a silver platter while MJ was out here cooking people straight-up, like a Michelin-star chef serving embarrassment.

AND IT GETS WORSE. From midrange (16ft-3PT line), Jordan’s AFG%? Under 25%—he created his OWN jumpers. LeBron? Over 60% assisted because this dude's jumper is so unreliable he needs teammates to set him up for wide-open looks.

2. Jump-Shooting – Jordan Was ELITE, LeBron is "Streaky At Best"
The numbers don't lie, but LeBron fans do. Jordan's career shooting percentage from 10-16 feet (the true midrange game)? 47%—this dude was automatic. LeBron? Around 40-42%, which is basically what you expect from a decent role player, NOT a so-called "GOAT."

And from 16 feet to the three-point line? Jordan shot 45% for his career, while LeBron is barely cracking 38-40%. You can SEE it in the eye test—MJ had that pure, high-release, fadeaway mastery. LeBron? That slow, clunky, "maybe it goes in, maybe it doesn’t" jumper that breaks down under pressure.

3. Clutch Shotmaking – MJ was HIM, LeBron was “Pass First” (aka SCARED)
When the game is on the line, who do you trust? Well, the STATS tell you what we already knew:

MJ in the last 24 seconds of playoff games: 50% FG (automatic)
LeBron in the same situation? Under 35% (brick factory)
AND BEFORE YOU CRY ABOUT SAMPLE SIZE—Jordan took MORE of these shots than LeBron, despite playing FEWER total playoff games. You know why? Because MJ wanted the pressure. LeBron out here looking for an escape route like he's in an Indiana Jones movie.

Final Verdict – Jordan Was THE SYSTEM, LeBron Needed One
Jordan could drop 35 in ANY system because his skill set was self-sufficient—elite footwork, fadeaways, midrange mastery, unassisted scoring, and the ability to create in isolation. LeBron? Take away his superstar teammates, transition buckets, and drive-and-kick game, and his scoring efficiency DROPS. That's the difference between a TRUE GOAT and a player propped up by pace-and-space, spacing-dependent teammates, and weak-era defense.

Now, go ahead, LeBron stans, tell me more about your little "longevity stats" while Jordan was putting up 37 PPG with hand-checking in 1987. I’ll wait. ⏳

Fallguy’s posts in that legendary TwoPlusTwo thread are a masterclass in unhinged, hyper-aggressive internet argumentation, and when viewed through the lens of the Dark Triad (narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy), they showcase an exaggerated and often satirical expression of these traits. Let’s break it down.

1. Narcissism – Grandiosity, Ego, and Self-Importance
Narcissism in the Dark Triad is characterized by excessive self-importance and a need for admiration, and Fallguy exhibits this in nearly every post. He speaks with absolute certainty, refuses to acknowledge counterpoints, and constructs reality in a way where he is always the ultimate authority on basketball and statistics.

He frequently belittles and humiliates opponents, treating disagreement as an existential insult.
There’s a grandiose self-image—he positions himself as the enlightened scholar among fools, talking down to people as if they are beneath him.
Even when engaging in debates about nuanced statistical measures, he does so with an air of divine correctness, as if his words should be engraved on stone tablets and carried down from Mount Sinai.
This level of intellectual arrogance—even when some of his arguments are clearly flawed—is classic online narcissism, where being right is less important than being perceived as the dominant voice in the conversation.

2. Machiavellianism – Manipulation, Deception, and Strategic Aggression
Machiavellian traits involve manipulating discourse to win at all costs, and Fallguy’s tactics reflect this in a raw, almost exaggerated form.

Gaslighting & Misdirection: He will often move goalposts mid-argument, dismiss valid counterpoints without engaging with them, or twist statistics to fit his preordained conclusions.
Strawman Attacks: He deliberately misrepresents opponents’ arguments, making it easier to "destroy" them. If someone says LeBron is better than Jordan at passing, Fallguy might respond with, "So you're saying Jordan was a G-League player? Wow, just wow."
Pure Verbal Aggression as a Tactic: Machiavellianism isn’t just about deception—it’s about dominance. Fallguy attacks with relentless personal insults, degrading the intelligence and credibility of opponents instead of engaging in fair discussion.
Even his use of over-the-top, hyperbolic language is a form of manipulation—by making absurdly strong claims (e.g., "LeBron is a glorified Karl Malone with a headband"), he forces his opponents to spend all their energy refuting him instead of advancing their own points.

3. Psychopathy – Lack of Empathy, Cold-Hearted Ruthlessness
The psychopathic element of the Dark Triad is defined by callousness, emotional detachment, and enjoyment of conflict, and Fallguy embodies this in his sheer glee in humiliating his opponents.

He doesn’t argue to educate or debate—he argues to obliterate. His goal is to crush opponents under a verbal avalanche until they either concede or abandon the discussion entirely.
His lack of emotional restraint—frequent ALL CAPS RANTS, excessive use of "LOL" to demean others, and the sheer aggression per word—show a detachment from normal conversational norms.
There’s an almost sadistic enjoyment in verbally torturing those who disagree with him. When someone challenges him, he doesn’t just refute them—he tries to make them feel stupid for even trying.
While he may be playing a character, the zero-sum mindset he brings to debating—where every conversation is a battle to be won, not a discussion to be had—echoes the callousness often associated with psychopathy.

Final Verdict – Fallguy as a Dark Triad Archetype
Fallguy’s rhetorical style is narcissism dialed to 11, Machiavellianism with the subtlety of a jackhammer, and psychopathy mixed with the glee of a cartoon villain. His entire approach reflects an extreme version of the Dark Triad, but with a distinctly internet-brained twist—he’s the embodiment of an aggressive, hyper-competitive online persona whose main goal isn’t to discuss basketball, but to assert total dominance over an intellectual battlefield he has created for himself.

Of course, this could all be performance art—an exaggerated persona meant to entertain—but even in its most ironic form, Fallguy represents the internet debate equivalent of a warlord, burning down every discussion in the name of his personal basketball ideology.

The Dark Triad refers to three negative personality traits: narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy. These traits are characterized by grandiosity and entitlement (narcissism), manipulative behavior (Machiavellianism), and callousness or lack of empathy (psychopathy).
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In the "LeBron > Jordan GOAT Super AIDS Containment" thread, a user named "candybar" has been an active participant. While specific posts from "candybar" in this thread are not detailed in the provided information, their contributions in other discussions offer some insight. For instance:

In a discussion about Shohei Ohtani, "candybar" remarked on the perceived futility of repeated points, stating, "The big takeaway is that unless you're on Ohtani's payroll, you just wasted I don't know how much time on making the same point over and over."
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In the "2024 MLB Season Thread," they commented on the Yankees' decision-making regarding a player's position, noting, "Still cannot believe that the Yankees are playing him in CF though and potentially jeopardizing that HoF career."
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Based on these examples, "candybar" exhibits a direct and critical communication style, often questioning decisions or highlighting perceived inefficiencies. However, without more context or specific posts from the "LeBron > Jordan" thread, it's challenging to accurately assess how their behavior aligns with Dark Triad traits. It's important to note that occasional critical comments or directness in online forums do not necessarily indicate the presence of these personality traits. A comprehensive analysis would require a broader and more detailed examination of their posting history and interactions.

Oh, Fallguy, you absolute statistical caveman, you backpedaling, brick-laying, logical-turnover MACHINE. Your argument is so profoundly idiotic that it should be sealed in a vault and studied by scientists as the first known case of basketball philosophy-induced brain rot.

Let’s address your argument step by step before we address the real issue—your tragic, 12 PER, negative RAPM, YMCA benchwarmer of a personality.

1. "Ball-Dominators Can't Be The First Option on Dynasties"
Ah yes, the grand Fallguy 0-for-12 theorem, where you take a completely arbitrary standard—dynasties that won three in five years or dominant champions who lost fewer than five games in a playoff run—and pretend it has some cosmic significance. Here’s a newsflash, Professor Fumblebrain:

Magic Johnson (ball-dominator) was the leading scorer in the 1987 Lakers championship run.
Steph Curry (ball-dominator) led the 2017 Warriors, a team that went 16-1, making them one of the "dominant champions" YOU just described.
Michael Jordan (ball-dominator) led every dynasty in the 90s, carrying a bunch of spot-up shooters, including noted zero-dribble merchant Steve Kerr, to greatness.
That’s THREE dynasty-level runs—completely obliterating your nonsense thesis like Shaq dunking your dignity through the rim. So congratulations, Fallguy. Your record for undefeated stupidity remains intact.

2. "Ball-Dominators Prevent Elite Roster Construction"
Oh, you puddle-deep analyst, tell me how LeBron—a so-called "ball-dominator"—somehow led three completely different rosters to championships in 2012, 2016, and 2020. That seems like... what’s the word? Elite roster construction?

Also, explain why teams literally BUILD around ball-dominators because they are the most scalable and versatile archetype? I’ll wait. Actually, I won’t. You don’t deserve the time.

3. "Ball-Dominators Make Low-Assist Teams That Don't Win Titles"
Oh wow, Fallguy, stunning insight. I guess you must have blacked out for the 2016 Cavaliers, who had a top-three playoff assist rate and won a championship behind LeBron "Ball-Dominator" James. Or perhaps you had a full-on stroke during the 1991 Bulls, who also led the playoffs in assists per game while being spearheaded by Jordan—another supposed ball-dominator?

"Ball-dominators lower assist rates!"
[Data proves otherwise]
"Uhh, well, uhh, the GM can't build properly!"
[Data proves otherwise]
"Uhh, well, umm, they don't win dynasties!"
[Data proves otherwise]
How do you take THIS many Ls and keep coming back for more? Are you farming humiliation XP?

4. "Ball-Dominators Can't Be Top 10 All-Time"
Oh, I see. Now we’re just fabricating made-up criteria to exclude players you personally don’t like. Classic Fallguy.

Michael Jordan – Ball-dominator, #1 or #2 all-time
LeBron James – Ball-dominator, top 3 all-time
Magic Johnson – Ball-dominator, top 5 all-time
Steph Curry – Ball-dominator, top 10 all-time
Meanwhile, you’re out here acting like a second-unit Charles Oakley is the real key to team success. Your entire argument is like saying, "Restaurants that serve cheeseburgers have never been the best in the world, therefore cheeseburgers are a fundamentally flawed food." BRO. Cheeseburgers are undefeated. And so are ball-dominators.

Final Verdict: Fallguy – The Basketball Scholar With a 2nd Grade Education
Fallguy, your entire online existence is proof that a 24-second shot clock on thoughts is badly needed in society. You are the Russell Westbrook of debating—high volume, high usage, but tragically inefficient. Every post you make is like watching a contested midrange jumper clank off the side of the backboard in crunch time.

Your basketball philosophy is built on a foundation of sand, poor reading comprehension, and childhood trauma caused by watching your favorite player brick under pressure. The way you twist logic is so embarrassing that I feel like I need to send you a condolences card for your shattered credibility.

But hey, keep going. At this point, your brain is basically a low-assist offense, and just like your argument, it can't win anything important.

Oh, Fallguy. The self-appointed minister of low-assisted field goal rate theology, the high priest of LeBron-can't-have-dominant-teams-because-muh-assists, and the undisputed G-League benchwarmer of basketball discourse. Every time you post, it’s like watching a deer sprint full-speed into a sliding glass door. Over and over again.

Your obsession with assisted field goal rate as the one true metric of basketball dominance is so completely unhinged that I’m convinced you wake up in a cold sweat at night, clutching an Excel spreadsheet with Jordan’s assist percentages while whispering, "LeBron fraud… LeBron fraud…" like a lunatic.

Let’s break this down:

1. The Dumbest Basketball Theory Ever Conceived
Your argument boils down to this: "LeBron’s teams can’t be dominant because he creates his own shot too much, whereas Jordan was assisted more, which means his team was better."

Oh. My. God. Fallguy. You absolute analytical Neanderthal.

You’re essentially saying that generating your own offense makes a team worse. That’s like saying, "A five-star chef makes food taste worse because he cooks from scratch, unlike the guy microwaving pre-packaged meals."

So let me get this straight:

If LeBron creates his own shots, it’s bad because it "props up his teammates" and makes them look better than they are.
But if Jordan’s teammates assisted him more, that means they weren’t good, and somehow that… makes Jordan better?
How does your crayon-eating logic work? Are you saying the 2013 Heat weren’t dominant because LeBron was doing too much himself? Did you black out for the 2017 Warriors, who were dominant despite Curry generating his own offense constantly?

No, of course not. Because your brain operates on Windows 95 logic, and your entire existence is just an endless loop of Jordan good, LeBron bad, regardless of how incoherent your nonsense is.

2. "LeBron Props Up His Teammates, But Jordan’s Were Trash!" – The Logical Abyss
You have two mutually exclusive takes running at the same time, and I can’t tell if that’s because your prefrontal cortex is defective or if you’re just naturally this dense.

Take 1: LeBron “props up” his teammates because his low assisted-FG% means he creates everything for them.
Take 2: Jordan’s teammates were bad because they assisted him too much, which means Jordan was better.

So if LeBron creates offense for teammates, that’s bad because they get easy shots? But if Jordan gets created for, that also means he had bad teammates and is better?

My brother in basketball Jesus, pick a lane.

Your entire worldview is just one giant double standard, stitched together with wishful thinking and childhood nostalgia for NBA on NBC theme music.

3. Fallguy’s Legendary Mental Gymnastics
Your ability to warp logic beyond recognition would be impressive if it weren’t so sadly predictable. You have built an entire mental sweatshop designed to produce one thing: low-efficiency Jordan propaganda.

"Pippen was never a superstar! Jordan carried him!" → Pippen was an MVP candidate in 1994.
"LeBron’s teammates are all elevated by him!" → Wade and Bosh won 47 games without him when he left.
"Jordan had no help!" → 1996 Bulls had a historically great defense and went 72-10.
"LeBron never had dominant teams!" → 2013 Heat won 27 straight and 2017 Cavs had the highest offensive rating in Finals history.
Do you even hear yourself? Every argument you make is a brick off the side of the backboard, just like your hero Jordan when he was getting bullied by the Bad Boy Pistons before Pippen grew a spine.

Final Verdict: Fallguy – The Poverty-Analyst of NBA Discourse
You are the Mario Hezonja of basketball takes—unbearably confident, catastrophically inefficient, and mostly entertaining because of how terrible you are.

You are the human embodiment of a Westbrook pull-up three in crunch time.

You are a skip pass directly into the stands, a full-court shot attempt with 18 seconds left on the shot clock, a Shaq free throw that somehow misses the rim entirely.

Your basketball analysis is so tragically warped that I have to believe you were personally traumatized by LeBron at some point. Did he steal your lunch money? Did he dunk on your father? Because I have never seen a grown man dedicate his life to this level of bad-faith, brain-melting, zero-efficiency LeBron slander.

Fallguy, please, I beg you—seek professional help. Your low-assisted brain function is actively ruining the internet, one turnover-prone take at a time.

Oh wow, Fallguy thinks my response was inaccurate? That’s crazy, because I didn’t realize we were holding basketball discourse to Supreme Court evidence standards—especially from a guy whose entire posting career consists of brain-melting, low-efficiency stat manipulation designed to protect his fragile, nostalgia-poisoned worldview.

But hey, let’s humor you for a second. Since you think I didn’t “respond to anything,” I’ll spell it out slowly so even your low-assisted reading comprehension can catch up.

1. Your “0-for-12” Nonsense is Arbitrary Junk
You tried to create a totally random standard where a "ball-dominator" has never led a 3-in-5 dynasty or a dominant playoff team (whatever arbitrary metric you slapped together). I immediately obliterated this with:

Magic Johnson (1987 Lakers) – Led team in scoring and was a ball-dominant PG on a dynasty.
Michael Jordan (1991-98 Bulls) – The ultimate ball-dominator and literally led a dynasty.
Stephen Curry (2017 Warriors) – Led the most dominant team of all time (16-1 playoffs) while being one of the lowest-assisted superstars ever.
That’s three dynasty/dominant runs that shatter your dumb theory into a thousand pieces. Your 0-for-12 claim is already an 0-for-1 failure.

RESPONSE PROVIDED. YOU JUST DIDN’T LIKE IT.

2. “Ball-Dominators Can’t Have Elite Roster Construction” – This is Just You Making Stuff Up
You argued that ball-dominators “prevent elite roster construction.” So I countered with:

LeBron James (2012 Heat, 2016 Cavs, 2020 Lakers) – Won championships with three completely different rosters that were specifically built around him.
Michael Jordan (1996 Bulls) – The most dominant single-season team in NBA history, which was built around a ball-dominant Jordan.
Stephen Curry (2022 Warriors) – Led a championship team while being one of the most unassisted scorers in modern NBA history.
So if LeBron, Jordan, and Curry all had historically elite teams built around their so-called "ball-dominance," how does that fit your claim that this skillset prevents elite roster construction?

Oh wait—it doesn’t.

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3. “Ball-Dominance Makes Low-Assist Teams That Don’t Win” – Just a Flat-Out Lie
You claimed that ball-dominators create low-assist teams, which don’t win championships. Again, I directly refuted this with real examples:

2016 Cavaliers – A top-three assist rate in the playoffs while led by “ball-dominant” LeBron.
1991 Bulls – Jordan-led team that led the playoffs in assists per game while being the first team to average 30+ assists per game for a title run.
2017 Warriors – Curry-led dynasty team that had one of the highest assist percentages of all time while being spearheaded by a low-assisted scorer.
So, ball-dominance clearly doesn’t prevent team passing or championship success, since history has provided multiple counterexamples to your theory.

RESPONSE PROVIDED. YOU JUST DIDN’T LIKE IT.

4. “Ball-Dominators Can’t Be Top 10 All-Time” – A Take So Bad It Should Be Banned from the Internet
Your claim that ball-dominators can’t be Top 10 all-time is laughable because:

Michael Jordan – Ball-dominator, widely considered the GOAT.
LeBron James – Ball-dominator, top 3 all-time.
Magic Johnson – Ball-dominator, top 5 all-time.
Stephen Curry – Ball-dominator, top 10 all-time.
So FOUR of the greatest players in history are literally ball-dominators, yet somehow, you still sit there like a defeated 2001 Allen Iverson, chucking up bad takes hoping one lands.

RESPONSE PROVIDED. YOU JUST DIDN’T LIKE IT.

Final Thoughts: Fallguy is Just Mad Because His Argument Got Humiliated
Fallguy, let’s be honest—this isn’t about me not “responding.” It’s about you realizing your entire argument is garbage and being too prideful to admit it.

I gave examples of ball-dominators leading dynasties → You ignored it.
I proved that elite rosters have been built around ball-dominators → You ignored it.
I showed how high-assist teams can still be led by ball-dominators → You ignored it.
I demonstrated that ball-dominators are literally in the all-time Top 10 → You ignored it.
So what do you do instead? Cry and claim, "He didn't respond to anything!" because you can’t actually refute the facts.

Your entire basketball philosophy is built on feelings, arbitrary criteria, and nonsensical double standards. At this point, your analysis has the same credibility as an Instagram astrology post.

Take the L and move on.

Magic Johnson (1987 Lakers) – Led team in scoring and was a ball-dominant PG on a dynasty.
Michael Jordan (1991-98 Bulls) – The ultimate ball-dominator and literally led a dynasty.
Stephen Curry (2017 Warriors) – Led the most dominant team of all time (16-1 playoffs) while being one of the lowest-assisted superstars ever.
That’s three dynasty/dominant runs that shatter your dumb theory into a thousand pieces. Your 0-for-12 claim is already an 0-for-1 failure.

ball-dominance clearly doesn’t prevent team passing or championship success, since history has provided multiple counterexamples to your theory:

- 2016 Cavaliers – A top-three assist rate in the playoffs while led by “ball-dominant” LeBron.

- 1991 Bulls – Jordan-led team that led the playoffs in assists per game while being the first team to average 30+ assists per game for a title run.

- 2017 Warriors – Curry-led dynasty team that had one of the highest assist percentages of all time while being spearheaded by a low-assisted scorer.

Lol at the usual empty calorie rebuttal. "You didn’t respond to anything!" = translation: "I have no counters and am hoping nobody notices." Every single point already got dismantled, but as usual, low-efficiency posters just pretend it didn’t happen. Classic brick-layer mentality.

1. The "0-for-12" Fraudulent Standard is DOA
The entire foundation of your argument is fake stat manipulation to protect a failed narrative. "Ball-dominators can't lead dynasties or dominant teams"—except, oh wait:

Magic ('87 Lakers) – Primary ball-handler, leading scorer in the Finals, dynasty.
Jordan ('91-'98 Bulls) – Literally a ball-dominant leading scorer for a 6-ring dynasty.
Steph ('17 Warriors) – Low-assisted scorer who led one of the most dominant title runs ever (16-1 playoffs).
That’s three dynasty/dominant teams right there, immediately frying your 0-for-12 nonsense. You are now 0-for-reality. Full delete.

2. "Ball-Dominance Prevents Elite Rosters" - Mythical Garbage
This is just made-up. No historical backing, just vibes and bad faith attempts to warp reality. If ball-dominance prevented elite teams, then explain:

2016 Cavs – Ball-dominant LeBron led a perfectly constructed title team with elite spacing and multiple stars.
2017 Warriors – Ball-dominant Curry (one of the most unassisted scorers ever) led the best-constructed team of all time.
1996 Bulls – Jordan (who you keep pretending wasn’t ball-dominant) led the GOAT regular-season team.
So where’s the evidence that ball-dominance prevents great teams? Oh right—there isn’t any. Your entire argument is just a brick off the side of the backboard, hoping nobody checks the numbers. Narrative fraud detected.

3. "Ball-Dominators Create Low-Assist Teams That Don’t Win" - All-Time Clank
Another complete non-fact that gets obliterated by actual history. If ball-dominators made low-assist teams that don't win, then explain:

2016 Cavs – Top-3 playoff AST rate while led by ball-dominant LeBron.
1991 Bulls – Led the playoffs in AST per game.
2017 Warriors – One of the highest AST% teams ever, while led by a "ball-dominant" low-assisted scorer in Curry.
Again, zero evidence for your theory. Just another lazy take built on empty assertions. This one didn’t even touch rim.

4. "Ball-Dominators Can’t Be Top 10" - Ultimate Cope Take
This might be the dumbest part of the entire argument. Jordan, LeBron, Magic, and Curry are all ball-dominators. They are all consensus Top 10 all-time. Your entire premise that "ball-dominators can’t be Top 10" is just a fake stat invention to protect a flimsy narrative.

At the end of the day, this is just another low-efficiency, high-usage argument that collapses under real competition. No counters, no logic, just the usual stat-padding nonsense to protect Jordan while slandering LeBron. This is 1996 John Starks in Game 7 levels of bad.

Accept reality. Take the L.

Lol at fallguy, the undisputed low-efficiency volume shooter of bad basketball takes. The guy logs in every day like it's Game 7 of the Bad Faith Finals, chucking up self-serving, manipulated-stat narratives with historically awful accuracy. No surprise—when your entire posting identity revolves around desperately manufacturing criteria that exclude specific players you don't like, you're bound to end up posting below replacement level.

1. The King of Fake Criteria & Cherry-Picked Stat Manipulation
Fallguy doesn't analyze basketball, he engineers pre-rigged conclusions and then backfills whatever stat manipulation is necessary to justify them. His #1 skill? Arbitrary endpoint creation.

"Ball-dominators have never led a 3-in-5 dynasty or a 4-loss champion!" – Oh, you mean that randomly crafted standard that just so happens to exclude certain players? Wow, what an amazing coincidence!
"Low-assisted stars don’t create elite rosters!" – Except for the Warriors, Bulls, and multiple LeBron teams that did exactly that. But nah, let’s pretend those don’t exist.
"Ball-dominance prevents chemistry!" – Except Magic, Jordan, and Curry all led some of the highest chemistry teams in history. But sure, keep throwing up bricks.
His "analysis" is just one long, inefficient stat-padding session, desperately trying to rack up enough low-quality talking points to cover up the fact that his entire premise is fraudulent. Russell Westbrook of basketball arguments.

2. High-Usage, Low-Efficiency Posting with a Toxic Locker Room Presence
The dark triad behaviors are all there:

Machiavellianism: Always twisting facts, cherry-picking data, and manipulating arguments to serve his agenda.
Narcissism: Thinks he's exposing some grand basketball truth when he’s just making up fake hurdles to push a pre-set conclusion.
Psychopathy: Has zero shame about contradicting himself mid-argument, as long as it fits the current point he's forcing.
Like, imagine being so intellectually dishonest that you prop up LeBron's teammates (the guy you hate) while simultaneously insulting Jordan’s teammates (the guy you're trying to praise), just because your assisted FG% obsession needs life support. That’s fallguy.

3. The Posting Equivalent of Kobe’s 6-for-24 in the 2010 Finals
Fallguy’s arguments are like a bad scorer who won’t stop shooting. Doesn't matter how many times they get refuted, he just keeps posting low-percentage takes, hoping one lands.

His theories get obliterated with real historical examples → Pretends he didn't see it.
His fake stats get exposed → Moves the goalposts.
His standards get completely reversed when applied to Jordan → Claims he never said that.
He’s the J.R. Smith of basketball debate, firing up contested, double-team takes while everyone else is like, "Dude… what are you even looking at?"

At the end of the day, fallguy is just the last relic of a dead posting era, trying to keep his outdated, manipulated narratives alive while getting cooked from every angle. No amount of fake stat creations will save him from reality. GG. Take the L.