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iirc they tried to get Egypt and Jordan to accept them in 2023. but they just didnt advertise it as brazenly as this. when it was obv this would not be accepted by any parties then we all saw the genocide. good chance this ends up the same way but we will see.
lol, keep working that little mind circle you got going to justify your bullshit
bro is so mad that Kamala lost that he wants the Trumpers to do some light genocide out of spite. these are the good guys we are told.
i want trump towers on every beach in gaza.
i want my thumb in your eye to the elbow.
GENOCIDE!!!!!
We did it [strike]Joe[/strike], Victor!
we did. theres a ceasefire. I am sorry that you are upset that murder stopped. but dont worry, good chance it starts back up soon!
You’re preaching to the wrong guy dude, never took you seriously lol
Lol Vic, I know you're not a serious person, but why even post that knowing how poorly it's going to age? Like, you won. Just say nothing and celebrate all the damage you wanted/got.
In some not-that-long period of time, some Gazan kid is going to kill an IDF solider or look at him wrong or something, and Netti will use that as the pretext for yet another round of attacks. Trump will do what every US president has done since 1948 and fully support Israel, so on that issue, the choice will be moot, and you'll either have to pretend people can't see your post history, or fall even further into some odd "Death toll scoreboard" nonsense.
Why celebrate with time left in what's basically the 2nd quarter?
shitlibs have the weirdest fantasies...
Lol Vic, I know you're not a serious person, but why even post that knowing how poorly it's going to age? Like, you won. Just say nothing and celebrate all the damage you wanted/got.
In some not-that-long period of time, some Gazan kid is going to kill an IDF solider or look at him wrong or something, and Netti will use that as the pretext for yet another round of attacks. Trump will do what every US president has done since 1948 and fully support Israel, so on that issue, the choice will be moot
bc for the last few weeks thousands of people were not killed and 100s of babies not murdered. like, wtf is wrong with you? you guys are beyond help.
the choice will be moot, and you'll either have to pretend people can't see your post history
Im pretty good with my post history considering I never supported genocide. on the other hand the people who supported the Dems...they might not want their posts coming to light...
I'd like there to be no one dying in the Middle East. I feel like that's less likely with two far-right demagogues in power in the US and Israel, but meh, maybe you're right.
You'd have to be a fool to think this, the 887th ceasefire is somehow the one that's going to stick.
bc for the last few weeks thousands of people were not killed and 100s of babies not murdered. like, wtf is wrong with you? you guys are beyond help.
See, like this ^^
bruv, it doesnt matter if it sticks. a bunch more people are NOT DEAD. holy **** how is it possible to internalize the dehumanization of another group more perfectly than you have just shown.
bruv, it doesnt matter if it sticks. a bunch more people are NOT DEAD. holy **** how is it possible to internalize the dehumanization of another group more perfectly than you have just shown.
Lol, I know it's my fault for indulging your nonsense, but again, this is just celebrating with time on the clock.
The political situation is significantly worse now than it was a year ago. Unless you genuinely believe this ceasefire is going to last, it's just a lull until more violence. At that point, we've got one side that says "We cannot withdraw from any territory we are in in the Gaza Strip. Not only do I not rule out Jewish settlement there, I believe it is also an important thing". and the other that says “As far as Gaza is concerned, we’ll do what is necessary. If it’s necessary, we’ll do that. We’re going to take over that piece that we’re going to develop it,”
Maybe I'm just having another weird fantasy or whatever, but that doesn't sound great.
we've got one side that says "We cannot withdraw from any territory we are in in the Gaza Strip.
they already withdrew.
Mitch McConnell fell down some stairs!
Happy news for all!
I hope he broke his face and won't speak ever again.
Mitch McConnell fell down some stairs!
Happy news for all!
I hope he broke his face and won't speak ever again.
"Senator McConnell is fine," McConnell's spokesperson told Newsweek in a statement. "The lingering effects of polio in his left leg will not disrupt his regular schedule of work."
RFK "You ain't seen nothing yet"
We did it, Victor
wow orangeman said some dumb ****, thats much worse than being blown up by a 2000lb bomb. goddamn you orangeman !!! 😡
Trump estimated that the plan could involve relocating 1.7 to 1.8 million people
orangeman did, at ~500,000 dead? that's almost as many as iraq war ii ... we did it, joe!!!
They can return! Just book a room at one of the many seaside resorts Jared is planning...
LOL VIC
anyway it's pretty kool that shitlibs going forward will gleefully support the absolute worst, so that they might be proven correct about orangeman being worse (like, congrats?). even though the dems literally had no plan other than full and unqualified support for genocide. sick life
and don't you have actual things to worry about, like how these clowns are actively destroying your country as we speak? do you even care, or is punching left while you circle the drain the only thing that makes you feel anything? go get a job with ice while you're at it
I certainly don’t support it. Biden’s policy towards Gaza (see: America’s policy regardless of who’s president) was heinous. Nobody elected was ever going to make it better, it was always going to be either as bad as it was or worse depending on who won
Gaza Bros are just impossible to take seriously. Some white dude in Ohio who exists as a contrarian making it a point to reduce every political discussion to GENOCIDE JOE pretending he gives two shits about Gazan lives while celebrating Bibi’s bff as the savior of the brown man deserves to be mocked accordingly. I am nothing it nor consistent with my desire to mock
If you’re a Palestinian-American, a middle eastern American or you have family or friends impacted by Gaza and you sat out the election or refused to support Kamala I can’t possibly sit here and blame you
If you’re some ****boi edgelord white dude and you decided to vote trump cuz GAZA BRO! GENOCIDE BRO! I’m good off thinking you’re a serious person who should be taken seriously
