Jazz: America's Music
Today I purchased Blue Train by John Coltrane (on the blue note label) -Excellent and beautiful flowing Jazz work. Complimentary and solo work by an ensemble of trumpet, trombone, piano, bass, and of course percussion, with the ethereal tones of John Coltrane’s tenor sax. Listening to this album rekindle my interest in Jazz – American’s Music. It reminded me of the Ken Burns documentary on Jazz that premiered on PBS in 2001 (which also inspired a CD set and a single CD, The Best of Ken Burns Jazz, that I have). But I digress. My collection of Jazz music is small but I would like to enhance it so best recommendations on that would be welcome and helpful to everybody else as well.
Additionally this post is for just a general discussion of Jazz. Below is a list of the Jazz artists that are mentioned in the context of The Best of Ken Burns Jazz CD set. It is not intended as an inclusive list by any means and is made in alphabetical order, although the first person should be place number one on the list anyway. This jazz list does not include newer artists, Diana Krall just for an example. So it needs brought up to date, which I hope others will do.
Louis Armstrong
Count Basie
Sidney Bechet
Art Blakey
Dave Brubeck
Omette Coleman
John Coltrane
Miles Davis
Duke Ellington
Ella Fitzgerald
Dizzy Gillesepe
Benny Goodman
Herbie Hannock
Coleman Hawkins
Fletcher Henderson
Billie Holiday
Charles Mingus
Theionious Monk
Charlie Parker
Sonny Rollins
Sarah Vaughn
Lester Young
Jazz deserves some fun and worthwhile discussion on these forums. So, Take it Away…………….
-Zeno
Oldboy is such a fantastic movie
suggested by the ytube alog
haven't heart Sonny Stitt in quite a bit, so figured why not
came here to share after hearing the first 30 seconds
Stittsville (which apparently is a community in Ontario) 1960
Jimmy Jones - p
Roy Haynes - d
'Unknown Musician' - b
wish i knew who they were
I'm new to jazz but I already enjoy how complex and sophisticated it is, I'm looking for recommendations, particularly instrumental jazz, so far I've been listening to the pre-made playlists by Spotify
It is an overwhelmingly broad field. You could start by picking a favorite instrument, and then look for combos based around that instrument.
Or you could name a song that you like and look for similar.
donkhunter
if it's cool man
please share with us, or not,
what's your jam
the 93 types of music you are currently programed to promote
as well as your stance on channeling the use of capitol letters
it is only after that we might be able to even start thinking about how to shape the sound of jazz that pleases your ears for years to come
recorded in Rome, ottobre 1969
just close your eyes and imagine what that scene must have been like at that time
from the Bitches Brew sessions
fair warning this is not lighthearted listening
more akin to when ten or more shorter bursts of sax
quickly lead to miles of ear tlickiling lasting for days after
My New Year resolution #1 is to listen to this album.
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Broken YouTube LinkI'm going to start with Ron Carter's work.
And this one song
Broken YouTube LinkWayne Shorter is the highlight of every tune he plays on. He brings melody and heart to the most abstract compositions. I have listened to all those Second Great Quintet albums a million times, the period right after this, and Miles is honestly a bit hit or miss but Shorter is hit after hit after hit. And he wrote most of the best tunes as well.
I saw Miles on his Tutu tour, when he was playing covers of Michael Jackson and Cindy Lauper. That was great, but it wasn't this.
i had a little exposure to jazz before college, which mainly came in through that common gateway drug known on the street as Kind of Blue
it was easy on the ears yet at the same time had a roughness around the edges not following any particular rigor
and that bit of unguarded structure allowed those Trane and Evans enough space to plug in their own orbits
so i started to track down their own histories
and also it wouldn't be christmas with Vince Guaraldi
all that to say i signed up for a history of jazz elective in college which quickly gave me the lowdown on Bird and his ilk
and i've been hooked ever since.
Wayne Shorter is the highlight of every tune he plays on. He brings melody and heart to the most abstract compositions. I have listened to all those Second Great Quintet albums a million times, the period right after this, and Miles is honestly a bit hit or miss but Shorter is hit after hit after hit. And he wrote most of the best tunes as well.
I saw Miles on his Tutu tour, when he was playing covers of Michael Jackson and Cindy Lauper. That was great, but it wasn't this.
awfuly hard to disagree with anything you said, so i won't
for me, Shorter is alongside Trane, Pharoah, and Ornette for their ability to strip everything else away and simply highlight the potential of playing the sax as a spiritual intrument
Roland Kirk is probably right up there as well
u forgot Sonny Rollins
yes i did
please forgive me for my sins
spiritual music
Alice Coltrane and Ron Carter
yes indeed...Alice playing piano and/or harp have been posted here several times before.
Wayne Shorter is the highlight of every tune he plays on. He brings melody and heart to the most abstract compositions. I have listened to all those Second Great Quintet albums a million times, the period right after this, and Miles is honestly a bit hit or miss but Shorter is hit after hit after hit. And he wrote most of the best tunes as well.
I saw Miles on his Tutu tour, when he was playing covers of Michael Jackson and Cindy Lauper. That was great, but it wasn't this.
Wayne Shorter's Speak No Evil is on my Resolutions list for this year.
My New Year resolution #1 is to listen to this album.
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I'm going to start with Ron Carter's work.
This is what started this year's project because it exemplifies my complete inability to understand music theory. When I could find people to listen to me, I would argue that there was no real dividing line between key changes and chord changes, but this song has neither, it has modal changes. Yet it works perfectly.
This leads me to the conclusion that music doesn't care what I think and I need to focus on things other than theory.
I would argue that there was no real dividing line between key changes and chord changes, but this song has neither, it has modal changes. Yet it works perfectly.
This leads me to the conclusion that music doesn't care what I think and I need to focus on things other than theory.
I'm not good at theory but this is still a blues, it moves from a I to a IV to a V, G7 to C7, then to some D chord. It just does it in a weird way because Miles Davis was a genius.
This is what started this year's project...
When I could find people to listen to me, I would argue that there was no real dividing line between key changes and chord changes...
there is a Difference between a 'Chord' change and a 'Key' change... Key changes are changes in the primary resonant frequency and a Chord change doesn't necessarily change that Primary Frequency.
in it's simplest form, and Case in point is that a Major C chord can be played anywhere up and down the entire Piano keyboard, but it is still a C major chord.
The blues itself is not really analyzable. It's I IV V but in G it's G7 C7 D7, with the flat 7 on every chord, which makes no sense in terms of western music theory. It's just a way of adding dissonance, like the flat 2 in Flamenco, which also doesn't yield to analysis.
I'm not good at theory but this is still a blues, it moves from a I to a IV to a V, G7 to C7, then to some D chord. It just does it in a weird way because Miles Davis was a genius.
Firstly, thank you for responding.
Secondly, I apologize for what you are about to read.
Thirdly, I don't think it goes from I to IV, I think it stays in I, but a different Mode of I. I don't know how to google it, but there's more than one way to flatten the 7th in blues, and I think that's what's happening here.
He does go to V in the turn around, but --get this-- I don't think Ron Carter goes anywhere. I think he stays in I for the whole song, but it sounds like he does because of the ambient sounds of the other players mixing with him.
Make sense? It shouldn't. I'm missing something important.
Thanks for listening.
there is a Difference between a 'Chord' change and a 'Key' change... Key changes are changes in the primary resonant frequency and a Chord change doesn't necessarily change that Primary Frequency.
in it's simplest form, and Case in point is that a Major C chord can be played anywhere up and down the entire Piano keyboard, but it is still a C major chord.
Thanks for responding. I do understand octaves, but otherwise I just don't get it.
If you go from a G to a C, you go from I to a IV, but you also go from a I to a I--a I of a G to a I of a C. I gave up thinking about this 50 years ago, but with just a little effort it can still drive me crazy.
Wayne Shorter's Speak No Evil is on my Resolutions list for this year.
My New Year resolution #1 is to listen to this album.
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I'm going to start with Ron Carter's work.
I'm going to park some LP titles here. I'm having connectivity problems. I'll post links when I get them cleared up.
Two returns from previous years:
Monk's Dreams
St. John's A Love Supreme
and then
Charles Mingus presents Charles Mingus
Joe Henderson Inner Urge
And I need a Blakely and maybe another Monk
