Are the WSOP Satellites worth playing?
Just looking for feedback on the daily and landmark satellites for the 2026 WSOP.
10,000 Chips with 15 or 20min blinds seem like total crap-shoots?
But in saying that you get paid in casino chips, so my question is if you focus on these daily and get a feel for the players, playing style and structure, could they offer a good ROI?
They would also take up much less time each day than regular tournaments and offer 10x ROI.
Thoughts?
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I've played 135, 240, and 1100. Very little value in these tournaments because the structures are so fast. You're going to need a lot of luck. The 135s are problematic because of the rake too. They scrape 35 off a 135 entry fee, which might be almost unbeatable rake in such a fast/shallow event.
The 240s are a comparative bargain, taking 40 out of the prize pool. If you are targeting a $2-3k buy-in event, this could be a way to bring the cost down. Since it only runs once per day, I don't know that it makes sense to grind these.
My opinion is that the satellites are best used as gap-fillers when you have nothing else to do, or if you are targeting a very specific event and winning a seat would be the only way you could access it.
I don't think it would be an efficient use of somebody's time to just play these non-stop, but I'm open to hearing about anyone else's experience.
Thanks for the info. I am sure that there is players that grind them, like hyper turbo style!
Haven't played any since the move to paris but the sats at the rio used to be quite soft. They would fill up quickly and would finish in under an hour. A lot of guys would grind these and sell the lammers. Like I said these were soft and I did quite well, usually we would try and get a last longer going (rake free).
Haven't played any since the move to paris but the sats at the rio used to be quite soft. They would fill up quickly and would finish in under an hour. A lot of guys would grind these and sell the lammers. Like I said these were soft and I did quite well, usually we would try and get a last longer going (rake free).
I think you are talking about single table daily tournaments. Which is not there anymore.
Would think with them being a hyper turbo and rake so high it would not be worth the time even if you can beat the rake you're hourly would be pretty bad. Sit down in a $2/5 NL game would be much more valuable.
The satellites into the main online are actually pretty decent while still being a crapshoot. They have a few late June that guarantee 25 to the main event. I believe they're $300
I won a ticket to the main event a 2 years ago, $160 flip and go online. They run quite a few of these, if they don't fill up you get your $'s back. I was sound asleep when I won and didn't find out until I checked my email 2 days later. Definitely a crap shoot. Last year I fired a bunch of those, very few of them got off so ended up playing a bunch of the landmark sats and was able to get it. I've always satellited into the main this year I may pass on the main to busy for 2 trips to Vegas..
I think the landmark satellites are fine for a bit of fun, but would be surprised if anyone has a significant positive ROI since the rake increase this year
At 17% take you need to roughly be cashing more than 1 in 8, compared to 1 in 10 of the entrants getting paid. Difficult to know if anyone is achieving this in a turbo that quickly turns in to an all-in or fold tournament.
One way to think about it is you need 2 people on a 10-handed table to have zero chance of cashing for the rest of the table to have slightly positive ROI. This assumes top 8 players on the table are equal in skill which is not the case but difference probably not huge in a turbo. Also it's unlikely the two worst players have absolutely no chance
