New York City Area Hype Discussion
Did a quick check but apologies if this already exists, also might be a little premature either way but- given the movem
I played in NYC underground card rooms (at least 50 of them) for a majority of my play from 96 to 2020 and there are a lot of dangers but there are also very honest games. You have to network yourself in but there games out there that are run as fair as possible.
Yes , have seen cheats , players and dealers , some credit risk , a small percentage of also law enforcement risk and obviously high rake but it you could find a good place or 2 . Still beats leaving NYC for games..
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Could be moot soon if resorts world stops playin and starts their poker room up
Please do NOT play NYC home games…I implore everyone to not become part of that scene.Between people going into debt, chance of robbery and most importantly keeping a fair and honest game one simply can not take the risk to play NYC underground games. There are cheating devices that let you know the winning hand. There are nice dealers that can cool you. Then there’s the whole
Yeah, I mean, I have played in them, on and off, for the last 25-26 years. Yes, of course that's all a risk, I think most of us know that.
I don't play them more often because of the rake, and the games not being good enough to justify the rake. The other stuff is improbable to happen, but the crazy high rake is a certainty
I played in a number of different underground games when I lived in NYC, one of them was robbed (not while I was there), two were shut down by the police (again not while I was there, and in that spot they don't care about the people playing - the worry is not getting paid).
The rake is already high enough, when you pile on top of that the dealers pilfering, they become unbeatable - $17 / hand (or $25 / hand) becomes $32 or $50 / hand if you aren't careful and an extra green gets palmed. You see that happen you fold for another hour and then just leave and never come back.
That said, I also played regularly for a couple of years at one where none of this was an issue. My assumption is that one had mob backing but obvs not proveable lol.
meh it's not all gloom and doom for sure
there are plenty of well established rooms that have been in business for 10+ years and they are not hard to find
yes the rake will be through the roof, but the risk of being robbed or stiffed there is pretty much nonexistent
unless there are some shenanigans going on like drug dealing prostitution and/or table games the law enforcement won't care either
meh it's not all gloom and doom for sure
there are plenty of well established rooms that have been in business for 10+ years and they are not hard to find
yes the rake will be through the roof, but the risk of being robbed or stiffed there is pretty much nonexistent
Of course there are, but they are not easy to find unless you know someone (well) already involved.....
Things are also a lot different now. Gone are the days of bigger clubs like PlayStation and Ace Point. Now it's 1, 2, maybe 3 tables, and then some bigger ones that run tourneys. Lots of smaller home games scattered around run by solo operators raking more like $10, some even less.
There's this cranky ass old man at the top of a million floor walk up who runs 1 1/3 and only takes $5-$7 on the UWS. Game is pretty tight though, lots of nits, and the host is not my favorite lol
Ace Point was really cool -- a full games club with chess and backgammon. I remember showing up there maybe 9PM on a Friday, to find out they had been robbed at around 6PM the same day.
The owner, didn't miss a beat explaining: "What, we're not going to re-open!?"
Things are also a lot different now. Gone are the days of bigger clubs like PlayStation and Ace Point. Now it's 1, 2, maybe 3 tables, and then some bigger ones that run tourneys. Lots of smaller home games scattered around run by solo operators raking more like $10, some even less. There's this cranky ass old man at the top of a million floor walk up who runs 1 1/3 and only tak
I never played at the Ace Point or Mayfair clubs etc, but I did play at several of the types of games you're describing, and then some absolutely more sketchy ones.
Nobody is saying there aren't underground games that aren't safe, but better to be sure that the one you're going to is one of them.
While I was never robbed or raided while at a game, I was a complete idiot and regularly went to a game near Penn Station that absolutely did not feel safe at all, and the fact that I was let in because some drunk guy I met in a bar ONCE gave me the number should not give me comfort LOL. That was one of the ones that was robbed (I was told).
I played in an invite only home game in Chicago where they took a rake, but it was all friends and friends of friends and he only took $7+2 for promos, provided booze and food and yeah I'm sure he was coining in $1500-2500 a night or something but whatever, totally fun game to play in. Would rather play there than in a nitfest $2-5 game at Rivers.
Homestar I'm going to be in your city a couple of times this summer, let's do it.
I saw something on instagram saying that people in flushing are suing regarding the hard rock opening
Doesn't seem likely to succeed. "You'd have come around to my POV if you had just allowed to yell it at you longer." (Not that the hearing process couldn't have been rigged, but I doubt they can make a convincing case that their argument wasn't considered.)
I think its too little too late but these ppl always tryna stop greatness.
They have nothing better to do?
There's rumblings that Steve Cohen didn't really care about buying the Mets to own them as a baseball team. Instead, it was to position himself to get a casino in the area, and print money off of the NYC public.
There's rumblings that Steve Cohen didn't really care about buying the Mets to own them as a baseball team. Instead, it was to position himself to get a casino in the area, and print money off of the NYC public.
I've followed his career. Cohen is a master of the universe in finance. He was taking home $2 billion a year with SAC Capital. Eventually he had to settle with SEC on insider trading trades, paid like $1.8 billion, one of his lieutenant, was indicted and served time. But he never had to go to jail, just paid the penalty and go private with his 72 Point hedge fund.
A casino for making money is surely a good investment but for someone like him, owning the Mets was a passion project and I think was the major reason why he wanted the team.
People who are worth as much as Estranged Uncle Steve are only passionate about one thing and one thing only.
Money.
As long as they have poker and a casino there who cares why he bought the mets
RW needs to hurry up and stop playin and bring us our poker
There's rumblings that Steve Cohen didn't really care about buying the Mets to own them as a baseball team. Instead, it was to position himself to get a casino in the area, and print money off of the NYC public.
he's a lifelong Mets fan who has spent a ton of money on payroll since he bought the team. He absolutely cares about the Mets.
https://youtube.com/shorts/-34U_shCLp8?s...
These games are pretty good if rampage can win 200k+ of Monopoly money
