PAHWM AJs 2/5

PAHWM AJs 2/5

500 effective

V is a young Asian reg who is quiet with an AirPod but speaks with a thick accent. Has $100 and $500 chips in his pouch to buyin and reload. Aggressive. Recently he opened on the button and I defended bb with KT. He 3-barrelled a K high dry board with A high and I called him down.

H has A️J️ UTG+1 and opens to 15. Tight passive player on BTN calls. V in SB 3-bets to 70. BB folds. Hero?

09 March 2024 at 04:37 PM
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Fold, hand over

Jk im assuming you called


I guess it won’t spoil it to say I didn’t fold as it’s a PAHWM lol.

At this depth (lack thereof) I certainly considered folding esp given 3-bet sizing. But suitedness, position, and V player type urged me to continue.

Will defer more until some more comments on preflop.


Sounds like v is not to b trifled with maybe fold


The main thing for playing this villain is that if you are thinking you might need to fold post flop holding TP, you need to fold pf.


Against this type of V, I think we need to take a raise-or-fold approach, wherein we fold more when we're OOP and raise more when we're IP.

With that strat, I'd 4B pre.

Post-flop, we're going to have to c-bet at a fairly high frequency, for a small size (1/3 pot), and barrel the turn for a larger size (2/3 pot). Rivers will be check-back/give-up or jam.


by fatmanonguitar k

500 effective

V is a young Asian reg who is quiet with an AirPod but speaks with a thick accent. Has $100 and $500 chips in his pouch to buyin and reload. Aggressive. Recently he opened on the button and I defended bb with KT. He 3-barrelled a K high dry board with A high and I called him down.

H has A️J️ UTG+1 and opens to 15. Tight passive player on BTN calls. V in SB 3-bets to 70. BB folds. Hero?

Ok. Pre isn’t getting many replies. Which is too bad because I wondered if this was my biggest mistake in the hand. I stated my reasons for continuing. I would have folded if I was OOP, if AJo, or against a tighter player.

H calls.

Flop ($160): A️5️2

V checks. Hero?


What little you've given us suggest he's an opposite player, betting when he has nothing and checking when he has it. SPR is under 3. I'd check behind hoping to induce some stabs at the pot.


by venice10 k

The main thing for playing this villain is that if you are thinking you might need to fold post flop holding TP, you need to fold pf.

This is a good point Venice. Have I given you that little? lol. I only played an orbit or two with him. The key hand was his A-high 3-barrel. He would have a wider 3! range than most, is happy to reload, and could be tricky and aggressive post.


Im definitely calling the 3bet pre here w AJs and folding AJo.

I would check behind on flop and look to bluff catch vs this guy or bet turn small if he checks again. Either way ahead or way behind situation and we have the backdoor spades.


Against this sort of V, I'd probably do the opposite of what I'd do against most of the population.

Against most V's, I'd check back after they 3B from the SB pre, figuring they're trapping with AK/AQ, or they're just scared of the A. No reason to bet either way. Let them think we don't have an ace when we check back, so they'll delay c-bet turn.

Against this V, I'd probably just go ahead and bet 1/3 pot, expecting him to fold, possibly check-raise, or call, planning to check-raise on a lot of turns.

If he check-raises the flop, we'll have to call, and evaluate the turn.

If he just calls the flop, I'm going to be checking back most turns, unless the turn is another A, a J, a spade, or another wheel card. In any of those cases, I'd bet. I don't want to barrel on a turn brick and have him check-raise huge.


Pre probably mostly fold. Given the sizing/stack depth it's not too great. It's probably the cusp hand for folding here.

As played checking flop for sure.


Check back, betting doesn’t accomplish much unless we think he’ll spaz over a small bet.


by fatmanonguitar k

500 effective

V is a young Asian reg who is quiet with an AirPod but speaks with a thick accent. Has $100 and $500 chips in his pouch to buyin and reload. Aggressive. Recently he opened on the button and I defended bb with KT. He 3-barrelled a K high dry board with A high and I called him down.

H has A️J️ UTG+1 and opens to 15. Tight passive player on BTN calls. V in SB 3-bets to 70. BB folds. Hero?

H calls.

Flop ($160): A️5️2

V checks. Hero checks. This was an easy decision for me.

Turn ($160): A️5️2️7

V bets $110. Hero?


by fatmanonguitar k

H calls.

Flop ($160): A️5️2

V checks. Hero checks. This was an easy decision for me.

Turn ($160): A️5️2️7

V bets $110. Hero?

Call turn call any river.


Preflop: 100bb deep, I feel like I'm tightening up and looking to play this guy with the top of my range. I'm also probably folding here not closing the action (tight, passive BTN yet to act behind us preflop and may just stuff it in after calling our first raise). But here we are in an interesting spot.

Flop: Docvail makes a very good case for a small bet, but I prefer to check behind. Tricky V from the sb probably has as many A-wheel combos as we do in range here. I actually like small bet against a more standard V.

The negative of checking is that we invite certain aggression on turn. But at least we get to see whether we turn more equity. If we do check behind, we have to be prepared to fold any non-equity+ turns I think.


Call turn and fold to river jam.


Calling turn as planned.


Well we got the turn aggression as expected and I'm folding on the turn brick. Tricky V's also get AK sometimes too. We have only 70 invested and I'm not looking back here.

Calling leaves 320 behind and a 380 pot to the river.

We will get 2-1 to call his jam. V is certainly jamming any non-wheel card. If we don't think AJ is in our MDR getting 2-1 on this river, we should fold now.


Fold pre. Check back flop. Call turn.


I don't love it so far. AP, we're now just bluff-catching, which is only going to profitable to the extent this V is going to over-bluff turns when we check back on the flop, and barrel off on the river when we call this turn bet.

Most V's aren't going to continue bluffing on the river when we call here, though this V might, if he thinks we're on a heart draw and the river is another heart. I guess we can call the turn, and evaluate on the river.

If the river is a heart or a wheel card, and he bets again, I think we'll have to fold. Hopefully he'll check to us on a brick, and we can go for thin value. I wouldn't bet on any heart, wheel card, K, Q, T, or 9, so there aren't a lot of river cards we won't be checking back.

Even if the river is an off-suit brick, if he bets again, what are we beating if we call, other than air-ball bluffs? Is he going to go for thin value with worse AX?


Turn call, not much else we can do

River all depends on sizing but looks like he is setting up for a jam.


****Apologies to all in this thread but I just realized I had the eff stack wrong! Sorry I’m an idiot. I actually had $725 and V covered. I presume this would convert some ppl who advocated fold pre to call pre. IMO it does not change flop or turn decision but may influence plan for river when deciding turn. ****

Flame away! lol.

V is a young Asian reg who is quiet with an AirPod but speaks with a thick accent. Has $100 and $500 chips in his pouch to buyin and reload. Aggressive. Recently he opened on the button and I defended bb with KT. He 3-barrelled a K high dry board with A high and I called him down.

H has A️J️ UTG+1 and opens to 15. Tight passive player on BTN calls. V in SB 3-bets to 70. BB folds. Hero?

H calls.

Flop ($160): A️5️2

V checks. Hero checks. This was an easy decision for me.

Turn ($160): A️5️2️7

V bets $110. Hero calls.

River ($380) A️5️2️7️Q

V bets $300. Hero?


I don't love the way this hand was played at all. At this point, I think we need to fold.

There just aren't enough worse hands he'd be betting for value here after we called his >2/3 pot turn bet. We beat worse AX, if he even takes this line with worse AX, QX, and some total air.

We lose to AK, AQ, A5, A7, A2, AA, QQ, 77, 55, 22, Q7, Q5, Q2, 75, 43, and 52. We're chopping with AJ. Doubtful he'd barrel river with all his worse AX or QX.

How often is he going to be barreling this river with total air or worse value when we called a 2/3 pot bet on the turn? What would he be targeting for value with his worse AX, other than KQhh?


I call river against described V but its close.

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