I'm liking this under-rep AK up front thing
1/3 NLHE 9 handed.
Table hasn't been open long, H is up to 500$ from his 400$ BI and has only played a couple hands.
V - Weak tight nitty player. I've seen him sit and fold for three hours. This is my third session with him so about 10 hours total sample size. He loves to fold. His VPIP is about 3-5%. Never really seen him play a big pot, his stack just collects spider webs. He opens here and there and picks up the blinds and then goes back to folding. 500$ CO.
Fish - Loose passive I've never seen before, sitting on 200$, bled down from 300$. Has been calling pre here and there, sometimes peeling flop. BTN 200$.
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Hero UTG sees A♠ K♦ and opens to 10, folds to V who makes it 25, Fish calls on BTN, folds back to H who just calls but considers folding (?).
Flop 75 - J♠ 5♦ 3♣
H checks, V checks, Fish bets 20, Hero folds, V x/r to 90, fish tank folds.
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Thoughts?
11 Replies
All in pre. Life is semi bleff
Nitty players with VPIP of < 5% is often highly correlated with 3b of 1% (i.e. AA/KK). Not sure I can find a fold for the price, but he is heavily weighted towards to AA/KK even with blockers.
Think you played it fine.
Sometimes nits get bored folding 3 hours and repop something suited. Pretty sure that’s what happened here.
dont mind 4b / fold vs 3bettor and gii vs fish
If you have him pegged as that big of a nit im fine with flatting preflop. Just be aware he might not be as nitty as you think, maybe just card dead for a while.
Check fold flop is fine
You are out of position and get 3 bet by super nit. AK is an easy fold for $15 more. Worse case he has QQ and if you flop Ace or King, you won't get any action from him.
Let's say the flop came A or K high.
Would you donk-lead? Check-call? Check-raise? What if V doesn't c-bet, and instead checks, but then the BTN bets? What if V bets, and BTN calls? What if action checks through, and then the turn completes some obvious draw either opponent could have?
Opening UTG and then flatting a 3B pre with AKo when we're OOP and multi-way may not be terrible, but it's not great either, if we're not 4B'ing because we're scared CO has AA/KK and will 5B jam.
If we're afraid CO has AA/KK, and will 5B jam if we 4B, we may as well fold pre, if we're not going to take the lead on an A-high or K-high flop. And logically, why would we take the lead, if we're afraid of AA/KK? How much money are we going to get out of CO if he has KK and the flop comes A-high? How much are we losing to AA if the flop is K-high?
4B-folding to a 5B is actually better, I think, then flat-calling, seeing a flop, and folding when we whiff, or paying $5 in rake and $2 in promos to hopefully scoop a $70 pot, at the risk of torching $200 with a 2nd best hand.
Suppose CO might have folded TT or JJ to a 4B pre, and we got this HU with the fish, or even better, we just took down the pot without seeing a flop or having to make a pair. We'd pick up $54 in free money, sending our win rate through the roof.
IMHO, this hand is well played preflop. OP thinks that the CO 3bettor is a nit. Given that it is UTG open vs CO 3bet, this is a situation where we should be scared of the 3bet from a nit.
With that said, the BTN fish's cold call gives us a chance to make some nice value if we flop well with our AKo. Not only are we getting better pot odds on our call, we also have a chance of dominating the BTN on an Axx flop where the BTN fish cold caller might have AQ/AJs/etc.
When someone plays 3-5% of hands, you fold AK, but you call with 22,33,44,55,66,77,88,99, 67,78,89,etc. His game is mega boring but makes money as he ends up all in against KK, QQ, AK a lot pre-flop.
