Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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Yea both sides are bad. Israel is worse. Ok what’s next
What's the latest on Sudan and the other 109 armed conflicts? They don't pack the sugar needed by this latest generation of elite jew-haters.
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They are also in need of help. What’s that have to do with Israelis genociding Palestinians
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Do I even need to say it at this point?
post truth world
"They could protect the Met Gala but they couldn't protect the Colombia graduation?" Dana Perino.
This radicalization of students have been going on for years. This is how you get ISIS. Young, single, disenfranchised, loser kids who have nothing going for them. This needs to be stopped now.
This is a violent, hateful ideology that has come to our shores folks. What are we gonna do about it?
no Im pretty sure they get radicalized kids from all the dead babies coming across their twitter streams
imagine how much fear these kids had as they heard the bombs come closer and closer. they were hugging each other. they probably died buried alive. in a lot of ways they were lucky bc they were able to hold each other in their time of death. most are not given that luxury.
this is what Zionists support.
this is who you are.
I didn't read the last 200 posts itt, but genocide is "a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part"
The indiscriminate bombing of Gaza has been to destroy Palestinians in part. Maybe not to destroy them for the sake of destroying, but destroying them as a tactic, nonetheless.
Again, Israel chose to shock and awe. Their hand wasn't forced to kill to degree past collateral damage in the effort to eliminate Hamas. There's plenty of extracurricular killing and it directly targets Palestinians of Gaza. It hasn't killed a large portion of the population relative to the Nazi holocaust, but it doesn't have to be classified as genocide.
The Nazi holocaust is not the standard of what is and isn't genocide. Stop doing this.
Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in
whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated
to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Israel is killing members of the Palestinian group unassociated with terrorism.
Israel is causing serious bodily and mental harm as a tactic to eliminate Hamas.
Israel displacing two million people is creating the conditions for famine.
All five criteria do not need to be met to be classifed as genocide. Only one. Israel is committing three of them.
If you believe genocide is necessary to defeat Hamas, that's a different conversation. One that might have realpolitik merit, but the last seven months classify as genocide, no matter who started it and how or whether or not the motive is to destroy the entire Palestinian nation.
Flip the power dynamic and Hamas would no doubt commit genocide of the Israeli Jews. But this doesn't make what Israel is doing not-genocide.
I didn't read the last 200 posts itt, but genocide is "a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part"
The indiscriminate bombing of Gaza has been to destroy Palestinians in part. Maybe not to destroy them for the sake of destroying, but destroying them as a tactic, nonetheless.
Again, Israel chose to shock and awe. Their hand wasn't forced to kill to degree past collateral damage in the effort to eliminate Hamas. There's plenty of e
Israel is not trying to destroy an ethnic group
There is no genocide
Flip the power dynamic and Hamas would no doubt commit genocide of the Israeli Jews. But this doesn't make what Israel is doing not-genocide.
Hamas wet dream is genocide of jews
If hamas returned hostages and gave up power, no Palestinians would do
This isn't genocide
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You guys are f*cking braindead. That's why you can't understand me or much of anything else
Is it the 110 other extant armed conflicts that you don't understand?
Have you asked yourself why you get your rox off over this conflict more than others?
So the killing of tens of thousands of women and children while leveling the territory is an oopsie?
Exactly what would classify genocide, then? Forget the extremes. What's the minimum that crosses the line that Israel hasn't done?
You should listen to Dunyain more. He tells it like it is, at least.
