Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
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I mean what's the point? The IDF released drone footage, and also battled Hamas fighters in an UNWRA building.
Reuters and company have run the stories (the school, the marked UN vehicles, etc).
Anything I post you'll say "can't trust the IDF"
So frankly I have no interest in doing this loop with you that we always do. I'll let the others discuss it.
Id like to see the drone footage. or the Reuters article.
but its looking like this is going to go the same way the whole bullshit about reduced deaths went.
We just never get to quantify the impact on the human tragedy that form of fighting has. And it definitely has some. This fight could be a lot cleaner than it is. On both sides surely.
could be cleaner on both sides? one side is caged like anmimals and the other side is controlling all supplies. HOW IS that clean? thats not even a clean fight.
this is ofc what rafki is talking about. (its really easy to find where he gets his propaganda). we are not supposed to make inferences on intent, but I will just say I find it pretty telling that he did not link to the tweet given it was immediately debunked and the guy got ratioed.
yes during a famine and war, food and aid is guarded by armed police. this does not give Israel carte blanche to murder UN workers and children.
a quick google search did not find the Reuters article. again, we are not supposed to guess at intent of posters.
they are planning to give gaza back to the settlers.
over 50% of bibs party are all for it. 26% of the rest of population.
its the settlers wet dream, they get gaza back and can build the riviera on top of dead children they just blew up. wtf?
gazans in that vision dont exist.
Gross and completely disgusting.
"but not genocide" my arse
this is ofc what rafki is talking about. (its really easy to find where he gets his propaganda). we are not supposed to make inferences on intent, but I will just say I find it pretty telling that he did not link to the tweet given it was immediately debunked and the guy got ratioed.
yes during a famine and war, food and aid is guarded by armed police. this does not give Israel carte blanche to murder UN workers and children.
Well the whole idea is that there aren't "good Hamas guys" you know? the "police" are terrorists, they can't oversee aid disbursal in any capacity or they will keep using it for their aims lol, that's one of the main reasons for the invasion, cutoff Hamas income stream from aid siphoning.
There are no legitimate Hamas members in general, they all have a death sentence upon their head and they are all terrorists.
this dude is 100% getting bombed by the end of the week
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True enough, but there's a thread for that.
thats what the reeducation camps are for
they are planning to give gaza back to the settlers.
over 50% of bibs party are all for it. 26% of the rest of population.
its the settlers wet dream, they get gaza back and can build the riviera on top of dead children they just blew up. wtf?
gazans in that vision dont exist.
Again it isn't true
I'll bet you 1000 dollars there will be no Israeli settlers in gaza in the next 10 years
Cross can escrow
Yes
Israel needs to get hamas out of power for their future survival
Civilian death is an unfortunate consequence but still not genocide
Very logical
I haven’t seen anything to suggest Hamas could wipe out Israel.
Do you think that because Israel can wipe out Hamas that Palestine has to get the IDF out of power for its future survival?
Of course civilian death (like Oct 7) is an unfortunate consequence but not genocide
Yes
Israel needs to get hamas out of power for their future survival
Civilian death is an unfortunate consequence but still not genocide
Very logical
sure its not genocide. genocide is an abstraction. its a term for generalization.
lets call it what it really is
-mass murder of people
-mass decapitation of people
-mass burying alive of people
-mass burning alive of people
-mass blowing up of people
-mass starvation of people
-mass amputation of people
-mass torture of people where they are forced to sit blindfolded and in diapers for months on end
-destruction of all infrastucture including electricity, water, housing
a country that does these things on such a scale has no right to exist. Jewish or not. nothing special about them despite what the Habara has told us for decades.
Well nobody has a right to exist. Force or the appearance of force is what lets countries exist imo
These days, almost every country knows that if you invade your neighbor with tanks and planes, they are going to start popping up out of holes shooting your tanks and running cheap drones into your airfields
You used to have a problem when guys had AKs, RPGs and mortars. Now they have drones too. Goodbless the guerilla fighters, they are brave and nuts.
Encyclopedias aren't deep into a subject, but sure as hell deeper than dictionaries.
Einstein was a prominent supporter of both Labor Zionism and efforts to encourage Jewish–Arab cooperation.[24] In 1938 Einstein explained "In this hour one thing, above all, must be emphasized: Judaism owes a great debt of gratitude to Zionism. The Zionist movement has revived among Jews the sense of community. It has performed productive work surpassing all the expectations any one could entertain. This productive work in Palestine, to which self-sacrificing Jews throughout the world have contributed has saved a large number of our brethren from direst need".[25] Einstein supported the creation of a Jewish national homeland in the British mandate of Palestine but was opposed to the idea of a Jewish state "with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power."[26]: 33 According to Marc Elis, Einstein declared himself a human being, a Jew, an opponent of nationalism, and a Zionist; he supported the idea of a Jewish homeland in Palestine but until summer 1947 conceived of this as a bi-national (Jewish and Arab) state, with "continuously functioning, mixed, administrative, economic, and social organizations."
Einstein wasn't just making up some unheard of position. This was a common position among Zionists and one that wasn't ignored before the "coup".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biltmore_C...
The program has been described by a number of historians as "a virtual coup d’état" within Zionism since the movement's more moderate leaders were replaced with leaders with more aggressive goals.
Of course this post will be ignored by mets. Maybe someone else will read it.
