Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
Democrats are a large police state, large foreign war party. If you think that is leftist then you’re wrong.
Democracts have 95% of the same policies republicans do. They are both right wing political parties.
Lmao at people that think Dems are leftist.
Dems don’t support the people, they support the companies.
No idea how Bill Maher stays on television. Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with his takes, his approach is always so smug and cringe-inducing that it is easy to instantly just take the opposite side out of principle. He has also replaced trying to be funny with trying to sound smart, and he doesn't even do that well.
Sounds like a few posters around here. Insta-cringe
StoppedRainingMen has been banned for 7 days for his history of personal attacks and recent infractions for the same.Friends, I understand we all have strong feelings about many subjects here, but we *cannot* just speak to one another any which way we want. There are rules for the discourse of the forum, and we all have to abide by them equally.I apologize for not being here to
There are not rules of the forum that we all must abide by equally.
That is not grounded in reality.
I would argue against this, but I don’t want to get banned again.
And the fact that I can’t argue something without risk of being banned, yet you can…. Well that’s all the evidence I need.
When your “argument” is purely making personal attacks against mods and maligning my integrity over and over and over with no other content, then of course I’m going to ban you. I should not have been so tolerant of that abuse in the first place.
When you can’t attack positions, you attack the person. I get it. But I’m not going to stand for the ad hominems that go on for days anymore.
If you want to argue about policy, be my guest.
Wait, a liberal was banned!? I thought that wasn't possible.
When your “argument” is purely making personal attacks against mods and maligning my integrity over and over and over with no other content, then of course I’m going to ban you. I should not have been so tolerant of that abuse in the first place.When you can’t attack positions, you attack the person. I get it. But I’m not going to stand for the ad
I quoted your own posts and you banned me.
I guess I’m missing the part where that’s fair. And I’m also missing the part that makes it an attack. What does that say about policy?
No idea how Bill Maher stays on television. Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with his takes, his approach is always so smug and cringe-inducing that it is easy to instantly just take the opposite side out of principle. He has also replaced trying to be funny with trying to sound smart, and he doesn't even do that well.
This is exactly how I feel about him.
i don't think he was correct to call you out specificallybut guys like luciom and other right wing posters are pretty much insulted egregiously in nearly half of the posts responding to themjust today we had a lengthy discussion back and forth discussion by many people regarding whether luciom was mentally ill or just room temperature iqand truth be told, not a single person po
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There is no requirement for empathy in the forum rules. There is a requirement not to personally insult. I don't think i ever personally insulted you except of calling you a marxist and the like (which for you guys is a compliment so it's allowed i guess).If i did you should have reported the post, and that still doesn't allow you to insult me back, even if you think you have b
I’ve probably reported less than 5 posts in nearly 20 years and it was always trolling.
I’d pretty much prefer everyone post however they want.
Where this becomes questionable is the I&P thread where it’s completely dominated by someone who apparently can’t read. That person sucking the air out of an entire thread, and occasionally taking it into other threads, is a problem. Once you’ve said objectively wrong things over and over for months it’s time to take a break.
Anyways, I’d rather just match your energy. If you put it out in the world that you think lesser of lgbtq, black people, most class of immigrant, and whatever else, it should be fine to point out all the reasons we think lesser of you. Seems fair, right?
i don't think he was correct to call you out specificallybut guys like luciom and other right wing posters are pretty much insulted egregiously in nearly half of the posts responding to themjust today we had a lengthy discussion back and forth discussion by many people regarding whether luciom was mentally ill or just room temperature iqand truth be told, not a single person po
Dead on point many of the posters here are extreme left .
I’m starting to think you guys just don’t know what words mean.
Mussolini, the inventor of fascism, was a lefty and moderate democrats are “extreme”
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There’s been a long-running miscommunication on this forum regarding what left, right, liberal and conservative mean. Some people use these words in the colloquial American political sense and some use them in a more academic or historical sense.
This forum, and politics in general, becomes destructive because so many mistakenly believe that rational argumentation should be sufficient to persuade. Persuasion is the way toward the good, I’m not making a justification for more force / censorship, but rational argumentation (even backed with supporting evidence) is ultimately insufficient.
Wisdom is required, but wisdom requires from us defection and a journey.
So as soon as I became aware of the issue in the Trump thread, I immediately dealt with that thread as well as banning the most egregious offender.
Somehow everyone is still mad.
Make it make sense
Like I said, I have some pretty intense things happening in my personal life right now so I won’t be prioritizing this argument here today. Please try not to fight each other…
I do my best, guys, to be fair and respectful. Sorry if I’m coming up short.
There’s been a long-running miscommunication on this forum regarding what left, right, liberal and conservative mean. Some people use these words in the colloquial American political sense and some use them in a more academic or historical sense.
There is no miscommunication. It's just the usual game where people define the terms in whatever way best suits the argument they are trying to make.
dear mods, for the record, anyone who implies someone who is trans could be suffering from mental health issues will receive a week long ban
meanwhile, it's open season calling all conservatives deranged, insane, schizophrenic, bipolar, cuckoo, etc and that's much worse because it's purely intended as an insult whereas in the trans thread (while there are some meant as insults that should be moderated, for the most part it's just objective and neutral toned discussion)
it's not a consistent policy at all - someone posits that they believe that it's possible that for some people who believe they are born the wrong gender could be stemming from psychological issues - something said without any ill will or cruel intents whatsoever mind you, and they banned for being a "hateful transphobic bigot" when nothing of the sort took place
yet so long as someone posts about anything conservative then it's open season to attack their mental state
just absurd all the blatant hypocrisy - afterall, that's the worst thing cosby did
dear mods, for the record, anyone who implies someone who is trans could be suffering from mental health issues will receive a week long banmeanwhile, it's open season calling all conservatives deranged, insane, schizophrenic, bipolar, cuckoo, etcit's not a consistent policy at all - someone posits that they believe that it's possible that for some people who believe they are b
For like the 10th time, its anyone who implies that being trans is itself a mental health issue. In your example, the person is implying that trans people are born with some mental deficiency and that is why they are trans. Its like saying trans people have downs syndrome
As for the rest, well,
. Violent people only respond to violence.
It is consistent. One is a vulnerable group who suffer from often extreme prejudice and bullying.
Not a fan of attacking conservatives or posters as mentally ill in anyway but it aint the same thing at all.
For like the 10th time, its anyone who implies that being trans is itself a mental health issue.
As for the rest, well,
. Violent people only respond to violence.yet meanwhile you scream ad nauseam that children will kill themselves if they don't get bottom surgery ASAP (nevermind that the data clearly shows they do not kill themselves at any slower a rate post-transition - it's rife with sampling bias issues ie those who transition are more likely to be more affected etc etc but fact remains that there's zero evidence that transitions decrease suicide rates)
and yet we're not allowed to say that something which makes you want to commit suicide could possibly be a mental health issue
but then anyone who says anything remotely favorable of right wing policies, then by all means, call that person any kind of nutjob and schizophrenic wacko at all
At what age should the govt be able to control your body?
yet meanwhile you scream ad nauseam that children will kill themselves if they don't get bottom surgery ASAP (nevermind that the data clearly shows they do not kill themselves at any slower a rate post-transition - it's rife with sampling bias issues ie those who transition are more likely to be more affected etc etc but fact remains that there's zero evidence that transitions
I've posted data that supports that HRT and surgery reduce attempt and success rates of suicide in trans individuals. I've certainly not screamed ad nauseam about it as its a burgeoning science. I think trans individuals should be able to seek and receive medical care, even if they are a child.
Again, you can't seem to internalize that being trans likely isn't the cause of suicidal tendencies. Its dismissive to imply because they are a marginalized group that receives prejudice and hatred and are targeted by propaganda campaigns. Would it not be more constructive to explore tolerance before dismissing them as mentally ill?
I really don't feel bad for having the general stance of "empathy first" towards trans people. Your lots incessant attempts to shame me for having empathy for trans people is .... weird.
edit: This tidbit of common sense must be SHOCKING
I've posted data that supports that HRT and surgery reduce attempt and success rates of suicide in trans individuals. I've certainly not screamed ad nauseam about it as its a burgeoning science. I think trans individuals should be able to seek and receive medical care, even if they are a child. Again, you can't seem to internalize that being trans likely isn't the cause of s
and what is their suicide rate after getting surgery?
Should kids have the right to choose their own medical procedures?
If not, do parents have the right to chose their kids’ medical procedures?
