The costs of trans visibility

Ok so your ~*Self*~ isn’t allowed to be trans. Cool, cool. Can your ~*Self*~ be gay, or is that also some replacement attempt?

As you identify with the self, take on its story / debt, and go from main character to supporting character, then you just follow the truth.

Being disconnected from the self and at the mercy of this world (which has no mercy) should be a horrifying thought for any honest person above the age of immaturity. Especially at this moment in time.

The final boss of gender self identification has arrived

Yet we're supposed to pretend this LGBTQ movement isn't driven by brain damage and total fantasy.

Can ~*The Self~* be gay? You’ve asserted it can’t be trans, surely asking whether it can be gay is the next logical question opposed to, uh, whatever this mysticism is.

To think this specific moment of time has any outsized effect on the self is to deny the eternal timeless nature of the self.

The self cannot be split into male and female and still be the self any more than water can be split into hydrogen and oxygen and still be water.

The self is both nothing and everything. The Universe and the void. Stardust and antimatter. Yin and Yang.

You know what’s funny? These people would probably be way more effective if they just didn’t misgender people constantly and weren’t the ones constantly making fun of women’s sports 5 years ago.

Somehow I doubt she was doing that given she was busy competing in women's sports.

Framing it this way is incredibly counterproductive. Framing every single trans female athlete as nefarious and insufficient as a male really doesn't have a broad appeal. Most moderate opinions are just thinking "wow you are one incredible bitch" while she convinces literally no one. The point isn't to convince though. The point is "Listen to my podcast and buy my book".

It’s so backwards that people think it’s fine to roll their eyes at the idea the self exists while shaming others who don’t hold the trans identity as sacred. They know not what they do..

I’m sure the 90% of the people replying favorably who are all Trump supporting males were really into women’s sports. I wonder how often a week YOU tune into women’s sports.

I have three kids between the ages of 3 to 8. Am I wrong for not wanting to expose them to trans people/ movement at a young age?

I don't have anything against a trans person but have no desire in my kids taking that route, and at such a young age their minds are still undeveloped. Also, FWIW I don't have these same views towards gay or lesbians and have no issue having those conversations with them.

You aren't wrong for wanting to raise your kids a certain way, but you are wrong that social contagion is a thing.

If your kid(s) ended up trans it would no way reflect some sort of failure on your part

If you have "the talk" with your young children and one of them happens to be trans then don't be surprised if you are the last one to find out.

Ultimately trans people are like .5% of the population so odds are low

I’m not sure that it has been confirmed the social contagion isn’t a thing. How else to explain the spike in people identifying as some form of nonbinary and then going back to being cis after it fell out of style?

I’m not impugning all nonbinary people but yeah, I don’t think there is any evidence for “if you don’t use my neopronouns you are literally being a transphobic PoS”.

We know it’s bunk because homosexuality as a contagion was a big topic of discussion in 1928. It’s just a thing that was made up to scare people

Ye homosexuality as a contagion was false (correct), so nothing ever can be a contagion (IQ 70 conclusion).

That's the logic on the left

More that you guys only have one playbook and love to replay the hits. Just like I accurately predicted that your partially bi sexual post was actually just an anti lgbtq bit

"We guys" libertarians were pro homosexuals when your guys were all against them. Until recently democrats and republicans were both 100% homophobic so anyone who wasn't a libertarian in 2001 and was already an adult should get the **** out of this conversation admitting he was an homophobic monsters.

The only people who are 40+ today who can credibly claim to always have been, since adults, pro homosexuals, are libertarians like me.

Everyone else is a latecomer who was a monster before and will never be able to cancel having being homophobic in his past.

I know you want to claim you did this. But you didn't. Homosexuals got their rights DESPITE the insane violence from the democratic party and the republican party against them. Every single one of you is guilty of that and we will never forget.

There was never an instant in our libertarian lives when we had any doubts about homosexuals. They were always free to **** around with whomever they wanted to for us.

You guys including the Clintons which you guys supported were against them. You monsters.

How has this thread been going on? What are you guys even arguing about? Who is mistaken on the facts here?

You should just grunch the thread and share all the facts to set everyone straight imo

Well the issue of social contagion in general is not made up though. Also tbh the societal and individual impacts of someone being socially conditioned into thinking they are gay will never be that bad. The worst that can happen is you have some unenjoyable sex and realize it’s not for you. The impacts of someone transitioning without actually being trans could be devastating, both to the person and for trans rights itself.

I know, I know, the regret rate has been shown to be incredibly low, but we have to be careful with taking past studies of trans regret rate and grafting them onto the period of time where social acceptance was at a fever pitch. And we definitely don’t want doctors rushing into things on the medical side.

That being said, if we can all just acknowledge that sometimes people do silly gender experiments and just normalize that over actually calling themselves trans, I think we will create an outlet for people to try before they buy so to speak without placing themselves in the “detrans” category. On that front, I’m very much against the normativity surrounding gender that states that a cis man getting in a dress is creepy, mocking, and wrong. Or that wanting to use different pronouns is mental illness. I think if the stakes around these experiments were lower, we would see the transsexual rate return to just above the historical figures which would be a drop off from what we are seeing now.