English Premier League 2024-25

It’s a unit of measurement you should be using.

was hoping rickroll would do the detail work because he's definitely better at it than me.

but for the why do i care part. it's a significantly better way to value players than player sales imo. does anyone think Manchester City scouted better than anyone else and found a diamond in the rough in Haaland for only 50million or whatever the buyout was? it sounds so dumb to say that. a much better valuation would be to say that City agreed to pay haaland X amount per week. which apparently varies from 375,000-553,000 pounds, proving the point...

especially when we are in the era of PSR swaps where pure profit players are going to be swapped around like candy to balance books.

Thank you.

Maybe I'm just not understanding, but why is salary a better way to value a player?

for fans/commentators because the sales numbers make for poor discussion. is mbappe worth 0? is haaland worth 50million? the sale numbers are basically meaningless in most cases.

if you had accurate salary numbers people could actually talk about what players are worth, how they are valued, and what clubs are actually spending on them.

Interesting take.

I'm going to think about this one.

someone once posted a graph put together by some virgin nerdlingers that showed transfer value vs years left on contract. it looked like this

i recall that 1 year left was about 50%

yeah i remember it was only recently that i learned that:

A: the player needs to agree to the move
B: they then tear up the existing contract and the player signs a new one with the new team

so the system doesn't really make any sense to me at all as I thought the entire reason for the fee was "he's worth 25 million a year but we got him locked up for 5 years at 2 million a year"

i get and understand why a team would be financially compensated for consenting to having one of their player's poached - but at the same time, it feels like a relic dating back to when salaries and these fees were all much lower and players didn't have as much power as they do today

as mentioned with mbappe/haaland/messi forcing their ways out on the cheap because that's where they wanted to go not what their market value was because they had the leverage

ie we see this sometimes in baseball where a japanese team will auction off the exclusive signing rights to an MLB team, which then tells the player, ok we got your rights, we think you're worth 100 million over 7 years but we just spent 50 million bidding on you so our offer is 50 million over 7 years - if you take it great, if not you stay in japan for another year and we get our 50 million refunded

so when Shohei came to the MLB, he instead flipped it around and said "i will choose a team and negotiate a contract with them and then they toss my team 20 million"

also arda guler recently wanted to move to a top euro team but since he knew his release clause was undervaluing him, he asked madrid to overpay his team a few million and they obiged

i think we'll see more of this in the future and i think these massive fees will go away because more people will follow haaland's example of the team spending that money via salary and not fees

either that or players begin to negotiate contracts that entitle them to massive shares of the selling fee

My confidence in a Championship winning season is wavering as it looks like that in the space of a week we've gone fron the strongest squad in the league to scrabbling about for loans in the last three days of the transfer window.

Some of the fees being bandied about for this bunch of players that were terrible last season in the PL are crazy and normally I'd be happy to snap the buying clubs' hands off but it's all a big late in the day for the number of sales we appear to be making with very little time to get replacements in.

Anyone heard of YouTuber Callum Fowler he's pretty good, basically an EFL Goldbridge lol

Cracking goal from Portugrealish of Forest

I did not know this until today, but McTominay has been at United since before Rooney joined.

He gets made fun of, but I feel like every manager has liked him, albeit in different ways.

We were terrible last night. AWB is a really odd player, positionally terrible, some excellent dribbling and good last ditch tackles. I like Max Kilman though, seems to be the only player that understands what management are asking the players to do.

He's definitely a good player, but it's fair to say that he's the prototype of "good enough for United present quality (e.g. Europa league challenger), not good enough for where they want to be"

Hopefully Arsenal fans on here aren't too salty they didn't get more for Ramsdale

100%

Wish him well tho. So often the scapegoat when its hardly his fault that he was surrounded by people refusing to put a shift in.

Great rotation player also. Not sure who jumps into his spot now? Probably they gonna sign someone as their midfield is paper thin

Hence why I always referred to him as Scott McTomCleverley

The business class Tomas Soucek.

Just glad he gets to play. Even though it's undeniable Raya has worked out, still feel Ramsdale got done dirty.

Paid 30m and sold for 25m. Cannot complain too much about what we sold him for. Probably say most Arsenal fans wish him the best, not the greatest of situations happened to him but there is no denying Raya is the better option. Hopefully he does well for the saints and enjoys the Championship next season.

25mill is more than I hoped for given the situation.

Im glad he gets to play. Most likely will overtake Pickford for England as well.

Lukaku gone

Season already saved

Life sure comes at you fast. From being in a title race to another possible relegation. Wish him the best.

A bit ruthless and certainly a stark contrast to Wenger’s undying faith in his players. I figured we’d have to loan him in perpetuity, so this fee is a nice surprise…a bunch of incentives in there too. Sounds like it’s all going towards another backup though (Joan Garcia from Spain, who I know nothing about).

I’m wondering though if Eddie, Ramsdale, ESR and possibly Nelson all leave will that leave us short on homegrown players?

This UCL draw is terrible

Yes but on top of that, if Eddie and Nelson leave, we have basically close to no attacking subs. I thought the bench vs Aston Villa was already lacking quality subs but with them gone we have basically none lol. Trossard. That's it.