Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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couldn't figure out how to embed twits, but yes it was:

https://x.com/yankicoen/status/185469767...


and you choosing to only post one sided part of the story, is more than telling. Victor, you are showing and we can see.


by IMBLUEtheONE k

and you choosing to only post one sided part of the story, is more than telling. Victor, you are showing and we can see.

Your posts on this have been as one-sided.


wowww a whole bunch of collective punishment justification in here today. SICK STUFF

i am very glad that israelis on the whole dont think like this, else there could've been a genocide in gaza after oct 7


by Bubble_Balls k

Your posts on this have been as one-sided.

Its tiring spoon feeding Idiots.

Im not pretending not to have a stance on what happened, UNLIKE VICTOR.

Im claiming it was a pogrom. if someone is claiming neutrality, but only posting one side, we all can see his true motives.


Imagine someone thinking that 100 or 300 Israeli supporters in a city with 100k muslisms could even try to attack muslims and ever be the source of the problem and not the victims.


by BOIDS k

wowww a whole bunch of collective punishment justification in here today. SICK STUFF

Only in your mind.


I have never claimed neutrality. I am decidedly anti-Israel and also anti-right wing soccer hooliganism as well.


FFS ,life is not a football game.

even if you criticize Israel and the entire war, it does not mean you have to automatically stand with radical Muslims attacking jews after a game.

Its not about "sides", its about human decency.


by Victor k

Im not saying anything was anything or not. it just want a "pogrom against Jews" or whatever bullshit the mainstream Western media and the typical hateful twitter accounts are running with.

by Victor k

I have never claimed neutrality. I am decidedly anti-Israel and also anti-right wing soccer hooliganism as well.

Be honest for once in your life. It's impossible to debate you, with all your nonsense logical joggling.


The whole thing was so easily preventable by banning football teams from the fascist genociding country from participating in any European competitions in the first place.

Which wouldn't be hard as obviously Israel isn't in Europe.

The fact that Israel has been treated like a de facto European ie Western country for decades tells everyone about the bias of the establishment and its institutions.

The RoW eventually got around to sanctions against apartheid South Africa and that's way overdue for Israel.


by BOIDS k

wowww a whole bunch of collective punishment justification in here today. SICK STUFF

i am very glad that israelis on the whole dont think like this, else there could've been a genocide in gaza after oct 7

Pogrom
Antisemitic attacks
Hate
Denial
Insisting it isn't about jews
And proud of it

And at some point me or another non antisemite will lose control and get banned and possibly one of the Bobsy twins will get a 4 hour time out and continue their hate speech


by Victor k

Im not saying anything was anything or not. it just want a "pogrom against Jews" or whatever bullshit the mainstream Western media and the typical hateful twitter accounts are running with.

It's a pogrom against jews

Does that make you moist as jal says?


Soccer hooliganism will become the new codeword for antisemites


by jalfrezi k

The whole thing was so easily preventable by banning football teams from the fascist genociding country from participating in any European competitions in the first place.

Which wouldn't be hard as obviously Israel isn't in Europe.

The fact that Israel has been treated like a de facto European ie Western country for decades tells everyone about the bias of the establishment and its institutions.

The RoW eventually got around to sanctions against apartheid South Africa and that's way overdue for Is

Should I fact check you again. guess I have to.

Israel was part of Asia in sports. the problem was that the Arab countries did not agree to compete against us, as they did not recognize us.

So they had no choice but to move us to compete in Europe.

It wasn't about western vs asian or whatever you believe in your radical race critical theory mind.


by IMBLUEtheONE k

Be honest for once in your life. It's impossible to debate you, with all your nonsense logical joggling.

sorry I mistyped the first post. I meant to say "I am not saying anything was justified or not..." and that was in regards to the retaliation.


by metsandfinsfan k

Soccer hooliganism will become the new codeword for antisemites

Dude, grow up. Football hooliganism been around as long as I can remember, way back to the 1970s.


by metsandfinsfan k

Soccer hooliganism will become the new codeword for antisemites

Always has been in Italy. In Rome we have 2 main clubs, Roma and Lazio (theoretically Lazio is more "popular" and from the "countriside", Rome is more urban and includes more upper-middle class supporters, but things get mixed up very quickly and can change in time).

Lazio radical violent supporters did this (that's Rome shirt colours) some years ago


(That's Anne Frank photo)


fake news eh


How you love to nit pick in order to deflect.

same tactic was used after 7/10 by many. Israel claimed 40 Beheaded babies, and it turned out not to be true, I.E. every claim of Israel is untrue and we cannot believe anything.

You do realize that in times of chaos many things that are first believed to be true, turn out to be not true, as mayhem causes confusion?


by Luciom k

Always has been in Italy. In Rome we have 2 main clubs, Roma and Lazio (theoretically Lazio is more "popular" and from the "countriside", Rome is more urban and includes more upper-middle class supporters, but things get mixed up very quickly and can change in time).

Lazio radical violent supporters did this (that's Rome shirt colours) some years ago

(That's Anne Frank photo)

Hooligans are much more on your side of the political spectrum than they are Victor’s. They’re not exactly known to be generous towards foreigners or any non-white players.


by Bubble_Balls k

Hooligans are much more on your side of the political spectrum than they are Victor’s. They’re not exactly known to be generous towards foreigners or any non-white players.

Hm absolutely not in Italy no. They are either extreme right (old style, "social right") or extreme left , pure horseshoe, and i deeply despise both.

And i am not sure why you believe i have problems with non whites or foreigners who are good at their job and are net tax payers, i am not a nativist at all, i am pro all immigration of people who are above the italian median and clearly all players in main clubs are


The huge dollop of irony here is it proves why Israel exists - the moment Jews decide to step out of their home, they are systemically hunted down and threated with eradication by anti-Semites.

It's disgusting to see the usual suspects ITT cheering on from the sidelines.


by metsandfinsfan k

It's a pogrom against jews

Does that make you moist as jal says?

How do you know it was this and not an attack on Israel supporters?


by Luciom k

Hm absolutely not in Italy no. They are either extreme right (old style, "social right") or extreme left , pure horseshoe, and i deeply despise both.

And i am not sure why you believe i have problems with non whites or foreigners who are good at their job and are net tax payers, i am not a nativist at all, i am pro all immigration of people who are above the italian median and clearly all players in main clubs are

Could have fooled me.

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