UnitedHealth CEO Assassinated

In italy you don't go "bankrupt" because of medical bills because they don't do the procedure to you if you don't pay upfront all the times that the public healthcare system refuses to cover the procedure.

It would be easy to make medical bankruptcy 0, just mandate it is illegal to provide a medical service on credit.

This is another completely fabricated statistic. According to this Reuters article, there were a total of 445,186 commercial and personal bankruptcies in the United States in 2023. Let's assume that 425,000 of those bankruptcies were personal bankruptcies. I don't know what percentage of those 425,000 personal bankruptcies were attributable to medical bills, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't 150%.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-ba...

Where I grew up if you were poor you'd just go to the university hospital and because it's a teaching hospital they apparently have to treat you. And they can still bill you but then you don't have to pay.

They go with households containing a bankruptcy for "medical reasons", so with say 250k personal medical bankruptcies you can reach 650k through median household size more or less, something like that.

But ofc the bankruptcy can be co-caused by other expenses with medical bills being the "last straw" temporally and it's disingenous to claim medical bills alone caused the bankruptcy and not rent or concurrent car repairs and the like.

If that's how you get to the number, then it's blatantly dishonest presentation rather than fabrication. Take your pick, I guess.

Rococo, if NY doesn’t have a death penalty, what is the point of charging m1 because of terrorism?

No possibility of parole probably... Thought you were a lawyer?

Plus there is politics at play.

It will make more sense if you look at the X account that posted it.

Not in NY but in a state with the death penalty. Which is why I asked Rococo rather than settle for a guess from an unlicensed babysitter.

I took good care of those kids

seems pretty obv why they are charging him with terrorism

This is the most likely reason. When there are a ton of people applauding murder, it creates an opportunity for the big guns to put their foot down. Whether it's this or other extreme positions the mob has taken in recent years, it clears a path for authoritarians since the general population will accept pretty much anything that opposes those views.

Luckbox is correct about the “no parole” penalty too from my research of NY law.

You guys wouldn't believe how close I, as crazy as you think I am (or pretend to think I am), have been to not only famous but important people. Not really famous though on 2nd thought, only famous to online politicos. Keep in mind that 99% of the public couldn't identify any of the people influencing key decisions which greatly affect their lives through politics and business. We here are the weird exceptions and we tend to think there are way more of us than there really are.

All CEO personal security is unnecessary and this one blip exception doesn't change that. CEOs and other high profile actors against the public interest are protected, as if by a magical blanket of 100% security, by the self-preservation calculus inside all of us. This is why heroes don't exist in reality. It's biology, really. No one sacrifices themselves for the herd. If you had those type of genes you would have died out long ago. When you see political violence in other countries it is almost invariably institutionally based. Those involved have a reasonable expectation of a big payoff resulting in them being in control and getting rich. This assassination of a CEO was a suicide mission and it was correct to assume, up front, that the perpetrator was not entirely sane (to put it nicely).

I suppose there is some increasing danger of lone nuts taking action as capital's grip on the working class squeezes harder and harder, the anxieties and stress of the working class ooze out between the fingers in the form of mental illness. But I don't think there is anything to worry about in terms of personal security of the ruling class. Mangione is just a blip in an ocean of billions of passed-on opportunities to strike at our cruel oligarchs. The only thing that could change that would be a collectively funded bounty system, but that would be unprecedented. Until then, we can go on relying on the incentives lining up against violence towards the ruling class. The only institution capable of striking out would be the military and they are squarely in the corner of the military industrial complex that undergirds the whole system, not to mention thoroughly brainwashed.

Why would this surprise anyone? If you live in certain areas, it is likely that you will be in the proximity of people with a lot of money or power. And it you make an effort to go to particular places in those areas, it is inevitable.

I mean like standing in a semi circle with them. Not Obama, although I have told my Obama story here. I met him when he was not so well known, in the midst of his first losing bid for congress.

(stop reading now if you don't want the details). He was standing all by himself at a polling place, trying to greet people on the way out. No one was really paying any attention to him. But he just kept it up. I honestly felt bad for him at the time, like he was selling something he was feigning a deep belief in but that no one else was excited about. I told him I voted for him as I shook his hand. He said "I voted for me too" and flashed the Obama smile, the one that comes from Africa or somewhere other than the streets of Chicago.

Had I known...

I sat on a golf cart for 2 something hours talking to Joe Pepitone once.

When I was 12 I saw Jessie Jackson and waved at him, and he gave me a thumbs up.

I bumped into Blagojevich on my way out of Wrigley Field. I wasn't paying attention to where I was going and walked right into him. I was like, "Sorry... Hey, I know you." He was taking pictures. I wanted to get one, but my friends didn't want to stop so I just kept walking. Pretty bummed I didn't get that picture.

I've actually seen Jessie Jackson too lol...it was at the Super Bowl inside the club level-- I don't remember anymore whether I shook his hand or said anything to him but I think I might have. He had a big entourage around him. I also saw Howard Lederer that day.

I randomly saw Liam Neeson, Liam Cunningham and Charles Dance all on separate occasions in Dublin

Even this is not surprising. Off the top of my head, among politicians, I've been within 5 feet of Andrew Cuomo, HRC, Michael Bloomberg, Bill de Blasio, Eliot Spitzer, Rudy Giuiliani, Bernie Kerik, Madeleine Albright, Jerry Nadler, Kyrsten Sinema and several other members of the House. I am not a public figure. I am not a politician. I have never worked for a politician. I very rarely have donated to politicians, I've never donated very much, and I don't believe that I ever donated to the campaigns of any of these people.

I could do a similar list of talking heads on TV, actors/directors, super wealthy people, etc., even though I have never been in any of these groups either.

I don't think my experience is at all unusual for people who have lived in NYC for a long time.

I'm guessing that he had some stories to tell.

He's a dirty old man who told me that the cause of his neck pain was from too much cunilingus. That's the one thing I remember.*

*Was a dirty old man, he died last year. My story comes from probably 2008 or so.