2024 NFL Game Thread - Week 17

The bears fans immediate visceral rage when they called that second timeout is something I want injected into me at all times

Fields would clearly be a success on a winning team. There was even talk of a straight up trade with Lamar with posters here agreeing with the deal.

One needs to go back to McMahon 40 years ago. And he could not even play a full season he got beat up so bad.

Would you people leave Jets alone, we had nothing to do with this.

I mean c’mon man he couldn’t win the job over Russ

What the Bears did on that drive is terrible, but not nearly as bad as what I thought happened.

I read that play by play and legit thought they called a TO immediately after the incomplete pass.

He actually played and won.

But that ship has sailed bro. Bears blew it when they actually had a chance to get multiple R1 picks and actually do something un-Bears like.

Don't forget that they also wasted their first timeout when they initially lined up to punt on fourth and 1 instead of very obviously needing to go for it.

Does it matter?

A team that got their coach fired cuz of incomprehensible clock management used 90 seconds to go 10 yards and only when the clock was stopped did they call timeout to assess

The stupidity associated with taking 30 seconds on average of clock per play and refusing to stop the clock and waiting til the clock was stopped to finally call a timeout cuz your qb somehow wasn’t prepared. It’s even worse than if they snapcalled a timeout by far

I’m still not convinced that wasn’t a blatant tank job. But that would also require giving the Bears credit for executing it to that degree. And I just don’t think I can do that.

It’s more likely they’re dumbasses.

lol who on earth would have agreed with that?

The only one I remember was when Lamar requested a trade and people speculated Lamar for Fields and the first overall pick, which went nowhere. Though I did find a thread on the Bears subreddit in July 22 asking Lamar for Fields straight up and it was 50/50, so there truly are some crazies out there

It was so un-Bears like except that time they did it all the way back in 2023

Yeah, it was Bears #1 + Fields for Lamar.

I said at the time basically only an idiot would not make that deal for the Ravens. A few others agreed, nobody disagreed.

So not straight up. Fields + 1 a fair discussion at the time considering contracts

It was un-Bears like, because they never had a #1. They traded down to get #9 and #61, 1st rd in 2024 and 2nd round in 2025.

Trading 2024 #1 would have been far better though as that QB draft was rated much higher than 2023.

With hindsight only an idiot would say keeping the #1 in 2024 was the right move. And Bears-like.

Fields was considered a plug and play for Lamar.

No idea what you mean by saying they never had a #1 in 2023. Do you mean a #1 choice for QB? They also got DJ Moore.

They would have got heaps in 2024, and then if Fields continue to be meh they're stuck with an awful QB draft class but with hindsight you obviously snap do it, Williams is turbo ass

Bears never had a #1 prior to 2023.

From CAR, instead of draft pick(s).

With Eberflus, yes. But so would anyone else (see below)

Yes, Bears-like. Which was a complete failure in hindsight.

Another factor that differentiates 2023 and 2024 Bears.

In 2023 the top coaching candidates (Belichick, Jim Harbough, Carroll) were not available. So the Bears' hands were tied a bit as they were basically stuck with Eberflus. But those guys were available in 2024. That and a boatload of high round draft picks could have lured one of those guys. All of this obviously does not work with Eberflus still there.

If you look back on it, with the plethora of high draft picks Bears would have had by keeping Fields and skipping LOL Caleb, along with luring a Belichick-Jim Harbough-Carroll, it could not have possibly worked out any better.

Instead they did about the worst possible. I guess they could have drafted Bryce Young but even he is proving to be better than Caleb.

You said Bears blew it and it was un-Bears like to not trade out of #1 this year, I said they literally did it a year ago.

A number one receiver is one thing but a draft pick could be anything, even a number one receiver! You know how much we've always wanted one of those.

First and ninth overall seems pretty appealling, plus ownership who clearly give their staff too much time.

As you keep alluding too, Bears gonna Bears. I'm sure whatever avenue they chose they would have found some way to screw it up

They did, they had a chance to turn around their franchise and they missed out.

I'm not going to put Moore in the class of available WRs in the draft.

And there are rookie contract benefits to consider.

Not as good as what they could have got.

Yes. It sounds like you would have given Mahomes the boot after his 3 years in Chicago would have been nothing but a "meh" QB.

Yes they missed out, but they did it before - my whole point.

My Fields experiment would have lasted up until Williams (though as you've said, with hindsight that's obviously horrible). How long does yours last? Fifth year extension? Franchise tag? Some kind of Daniel Jones contract?

a fair amount of it is on Caleb

from The Beast (not like i need to refer to The Beast when we all pretty much already know this)

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pretty sure you're simply saying Fields played for PIT this season and won games and not saying Fields won the QB1 job over Russ. if so, yes that's so

I fell asleep in the 4th qtr and missed what sounds like another epic f-up by the Bears. Why I am not surprised. Watching the last drive highlights was very entertaining.

I would have blown my brains out if we shipped Lamar for 1+Fields.