Moderation Questions for Whiners

Moderation Questions for Whiners

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.

This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.

Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.

Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.

So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.

Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.

So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.

We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.

Thanks.

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30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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I'll do it.
I will ban no one. (Even the Colonel will be immune.)
I will delete no posts.
I will edit no posts.
I will move no post.
I will do absolutely nothing.
My guiding principle will be "Grow up, it's just the internet".


Look, I very clearly said I am struggling right now in my real life with a lot of this garbage. It’s finally clear to me that the last thing I need on top of it all is to be wasting my time being berated and accused of various thought crimes by a bunch of ******* men on the internet for my attempts at being thoughtful and fair with them. I can’t even express my distaste for this place at this point. Maybe I just need a vacation or something.


by Didace k

I'll do it.
I will ban no one. (Even the Colonel will be immune.)
I will delete no posts.
I will edit no posts.
I will move no post.
I will do absolutely nothing.
My guiding principle will be "Grow up, it's just the internet".

This is broadly the correct approach.


by Crossnerd k

Look, I very clearly said I am struggling right now in my real life with a lot of this garbage. It’s finally clear to me that the last thing I need on top of it all is to be wasting my time being berated and accused of various thought crimes by a bunch of ******* men on the internet for my attempts at being thoughtful and fair with them. I can’t even express my distaste for this place at this point. Maybe I just need a vacation or something.

This is something that you have to enjoy doing or else it woulsnt make sense, to me at least. Some people enjoy yelling at others, many dont.


by Didace k

I'll do it.
I will ban no one. (Even the Colonel will be immune.)
I will delete no posts.
I will edit no posts.
I will move no post.
I will do absolutely nothing.
My guiding principle will be "Grow up, it's just the internet".

suggestion: ban content which is illegal in the jurisdiction the servers are in.

that should be the only rule


by Luciom k

suggestion: ban content which is illegal in the jurisdiction the servers are in.

that should be the only rule


i nominate victor


vic or didace would be good.


How much do MODs make?


by mongidig k

How much do MODs make?

Mods get paid ?


$10/temp ban

$100/perma

$10/post edit

$15/post deletion


by mongidig k

How much do MODs make?

Not sure but it pays for their power trips.


Exactly, but it will simultaneously cost you your skincare routine and any will at all to live


(1) You have major issues with men
(2) It causes you to dumb stuff like volunteering to moderate over a male dominated space

I can only imagine the other dumb stuff it causes you to do in your daily life.

The solution is simple: Acknowledge this reality in a way that you won’t forget so you can get off this dumb ride you’re on.


That’s very unkind, Craig, but entirely expected. I am reminded daily that I am not welcome at the table. Thank you 😀


You’re not ready to get off the ride. Too bad.


by Crossnerd k

That’s very unkind, Craig, but entirely expected. I am reminded daily that I am not welcome at the table. Thank you 😀

No one's saying this is about you at all, but about the idea of someone sitting in a bar with friends, interrupting their conversations and arguments and silencing them or even kicking them out of the bar.


Lol Craig said it explicitly, Jal. Fix your own people, don’t worry about me.


I'd make an elite mod. I am anti-fragile.


by Crossnerd k

Lol Craig said it explicitly, Jal. Fix your own people, don’t worry about me.

Craig is a very long way from being one of my own people, and is unfixable imo.

Apart from the basic idea of people being able to talk freely, the problem with trying to moderate people talking with each other is that interference is almost always seen as unfair by at least one party so it makes things much worse and reduces the chance of rows blowing over. It also becomes a challenge for some.


by microbet k

$10/temp ban

$100/perma

$10/post edit

$15/post deletion

Now hold on just a second here. I might just need to change my thoughts on moderation. Is there some kind of daily limit? Or can I just nuke everything?


Already in discussion, D


by jalfrezi k

Craig is a very long way from being one of my own people, and is unfixable imo.

Apart from the basic idea of people being able to talk freely, the problem with trying to moderate people talking with each other is that interference is almost always seen as unfair by at least one party so it makes things much worse and reduces the chance of rows blowing over. It also becomes a challenge for some.

[quote=craig1120]It causes you to dumb stuff like volunteering to moderate over a male dominated space[/quote]

Are you really unable to parse why saying something like this to a woman is not okay?

Has a single man here pushed back at him for saying it?

The thing some of you seem to be unable to comprehend is that this forum will be moderated by someone or it will cease to exist. You all have successfully chased away even the most well intentioned people from volunteering here. So what happens next is on you guys. Best of luck.


Sorry but wouldn't a man pushing back be white Knight patriarchal and presumptuous that women are inherently weak and need a man to defend them, in this case via pushing back? Hard to navigate these days is all.


Lol omfg

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