Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)
Surprised nobody has jumped on this to post here...
On Twitter yesterday I believe Mike Postle is being accused of cheati
I get that its her perspective but the whole thing is about her
Weird she only felt motivated to do this after the Nick V situation fell through. Almost like a hail marry attempt to stay relevant
He claim to claim is the Postle thing. But at this point everyone knows what he did and it's beating a dead horse. Then she clung to a guy she absolutely knew was a dirt bag that she didn't even like to try and stay relevant in poker. It's pretty sad actually.
Wow, coordi was more right than I originally thought and I initially agreed with him. If only the Lerners were this effective as team owners!
The Xblink stuff is there, Fees and Tcorbin posted about it a lot. Maybe the agua caliente collusion ring got buried too but Irieguy has posted/spoken on it a lot so that is around somewhere.
I guess the Lerners got to WaPo but not NYT:
Wow, coordi was more right than I originally thought and I initially agreed with him. If only the Lerners were this effective as team owners!
The Xblink stuff is there, Fees and Tcorbin posted about it a lot. Maybe the agua caliente collusion ring got buried too but Irieguy has posted/spoken on it a lot so that is around somewhere.
I guess the Lerners got to WaPo but not NYT:
Would love to read but article is behind a pay wall.
Part 6
Has anything interesting come out of this youtube series?
Nah, it’s just vanity project for the ghislaine maxwell of the poker industry. If Brill had spoken up sooner, Vertucci would’ve sexually harassed a lot less women but sure watch these old news cartoons.
veronica is so cringe, i think if she came out with this early more people would have wrongly defended postle
reality
veronica's reality
hi veronica
Wow, coordi was more right than I originally thought and I initially agreed with him. If only the Lerners were this effective as team owners!
The Xblink stuff is there, Fees and Tcorbin posted about it a lot. Maybe the agua caliente collusion ring got buried too but Irieguy has posted/spoken on it a lot so that is around somewhere.
I guess the Lerners got to WaPo but not NYT:
thanks for this and the other person who shared links
the thing i was most interested in was the drugging stuff
i've seen that referenced a lot over the years but have never been able to find any threads on it so it's either labeled something else, i'm an idiot who sucks at search, or they've been purged :(
Part 7
https://web.archive.org/web/201305181852...
You can sometimes see the archived version.
Thank you
why do you think Justin banned the phones? it wasn't something i made up. people were complaining. ask Marle and Berkey why they couldn't use their phones while they played
I didn't suggest you made it up, I was just wondering how many people noticed Mike's peering into his lap before this thread started – i.e. whether the suspicions were "Mike is getting info on his phone, which he keeps in his lap" or more like "Something fishy is going on with Mike, maybe let's prohibit phones and see what happens"
Sensing some revisionist history based on that?
Watch JoeIngrams investigation there are hours and hours of examples of postle crotch staring and it's so obvious
My bad, I wasn't clear about my question or point of confusion. Yes, I know Joey's videos spotted plenty of examples of obvious crotch viewing. There is little doubt to me that Postle did it nor is there any question how he did it.
No, what struck me is that people apparently noticed Postle looking into his crotch this thread started (Sept. 29, 2019) and Joey's first video. I'm not saying that isn't true, I'm just saying it's not what I remembered (or see in the early pages of this thread, for that matter). That's why I suggested "revisionist history" in her series: that she's possibly recounting the entire saga but with information we know now but not then. For example, the importance of 2:01 mark in the July 18, 2019 video was something that didn't surface until Gumpstein created his video. After that, it became an anchor point for a lot of research and investigating.
There were people who wondered why no one tried to catch Postle in the act – i.e. wait until he's in a hand, then grab his phone to see what he's looking at. And the answer to this question was that the actual method wasn't known until much later.
So I guess what I'm wondering/asking: when did the suspicions of his phone-in-crotch method fall in relation to September 29, 2019? And if the other players DID know what Mike was up to (and exactly how he did it) before the story broke around that date, then I join the others in wondering why people didn't try to catch him red-handed in the act after all.
Sure, people like me would have been denied a fascinating story that keeps on going. On the other hand, someone like Veronica would have been spared the BS she got from a lot of people she thought were friends (and are probably friends now).
All this said, still enjoying the series. Each new episode is add-to-the-top-of-the-queue material.
The "start" of what? For what it's worth, the first mentions of Crotch Theory Optimal in this thread were posts 6568, 6950, and 7172. Of course, for all I know it was in Joey's Twitch chat long before then, or uttered on one of the Stones Live streams.
Oh, and...
The Mitchell v Jobst lawsuit was never about cheating, it was the fact that Karl claimed that Michell drove Apollo Legend to suicide which harmed his reputation and lost earnings because of it.. Instead of focusing on how that statement wasn't true the defense focused on Billy Mitchells reputation as a cheater and how he has no reputation to damaged because of that. At no point did the lawyers defend against the actual impunities during the trial. The judge got that one right though. "the imputations about which Mr Mitchell complains have in fact caused significant harm to him personally and to his reputation – harm that outweighs his pre-existing reputation and the contextual imputations" Most knew Karl was cooked after the defense rested.
For sure. But this is the rub: Jobst (and others) had plenty of receipts discreting Mitchell, particularly Mitchell's own deposition regarding the red joystick, etc. Jobst had a LOT correct. But despite that, losing the defamation case on the Apollo Legend comment hurts Jobst's credibility, at least in the eyes of casual observers. It's unfortunate that that's how people operate, but that's the way of the world nowadays. Yes, those who have more closely followed that saga still see Billy as a cheater. Veritas' four-hour analysis of MAME signatures are not refuted because Jobst had an outlandish claim among plenty of good ones.
Still, most people will shrug and say, "Jobst was FOS all that time? Then the hell with his theories, he can't be trusted." Similarly, I don't want to give Postle the same kind of wiggle room to go after Veronica's series, especially after his first attempt to file defamation suits was so strongly rebuffed.
I didn't suggest you made it up, I was just wondering how many people noticed Mike's peering into his lap before this thread started – i.e. whether the suspicions were "Mike is getting info on his phone, which he keeps in his lap" or more like "Something fishy is going on with Mike, maybe let's prohibit phones and see what happens"
I played on the stream with Mike a few times and watched the stream just about every time it aired and I once typed in the chat asking if Mike ever loses because after a while I noticed he just never got smoked even one time as we all do no matter how much of a sicko we may be.
I was never seated near him so I didn't have an inclination about the crotch thing but I just kinda had it in my head that security cameras would have caught such a thing and so I didn't pay much mind to it (I was naive enough to think casinos had an interest in protecting players)
Part 8
The Sportscenter 1 big thing segment replay on here, that was so awesome that night it aired. lol
https://youtu.be/ZYLFHxn8tKo?si=W8CgTnct...
Did anybody see this dumpster fire?
https://youtu.be/ZYLFHxn8tKo?si=W8CgTnct...
Did anybody see this dumpster fire?
Thanks for the link, halfway thru it now. Veronica is so cringe.
Not only does Roger come off better then Veronica. But it's so sad watching her in that video. It's like she truly believes she is coming off good and pure, and that everyone could see thru the person Roger is. I've never in seen Roger before or heard him speak. But he seems infinitely more credible then Veronica.
She acts like he is not trustworthy. When it is her that seems less honest. Yet she acts like nobody else in the world will believe him. She at one point says he is acting like a 14 year old, when it is the complete opposite.
Thanks for the link, halfway thru it now. Veronica is so cringe. Not only does Roger come off better then Veronica. But it's so sad watching her in that video. It's like she truly believes she is coming off good and pure, and that everyone could see thru the person Roger is. I've never in seen Roger before or heard him speak. But he seems infinitely more credible then
he does royally own himself at the end when he states there's no evidence postle cheated
but that aside, i think all his criticism towards veronica doing this as a personal vendetta to throw shade at all her enemies (a ton of randos catch strays unrelated to the postle thing) is very on point as that's something i deeply suspected to begin with given how things were being presented ie just randomly introducing someone and then alluding to the fact they are a total pos and then moving on to some other stream of conscious thought she has
the biggest takeaway from all of this though is that without a doubt, veronica is not a very smart person - none of this is well structured and none of the argument is presented coherently at all - if some newcomer shows up and watches this without any prior knowledge you'd be hard pressed to convince them mike was cheating despite that it's an incredibly easy case to make because she's literally that dumb when it comes to storytelling - which is the biggest irony of all of this, yes mike clearly cheated, but it seems instead of diving deep on that, veronica instead opted to accidentally heel turn and make herself the second villain
Thanks for the link, halfway thru it now. Veronica is so cringe. Not only does Roger come off better then Veronica. But it's so sad watching her in that video. It's like she truly believes she is coming off good and pure, and that everyone could see thru the person Roger is. I've never in seen Roger before or heard him speak. But he seems infinitely more credible then
So you think he is credible when he wouldn't answer the simple question asking if he thought Postle cheated? LOL
Would you like to answer the same question?
He defended Justin as a good person yet just recently Justin said he thinks its OK if the people in the game got cheated........
he does royally own himself at the end when he states there's no evidence postle cheatedbut that aside, i think all his criticism towards veronica doing this as a personal vendetta to throw shade at all her enemies (a ton of randos catch strays unrelated to the postle thing) is very on point as that's something i deeply suspected to begin with given how things were being presen
Rick, I partially agree with your sentiments but often people attack the messenger when they cant fade the message.
As you correctly stated, Roger makes himself look stupid when he wont admit that Mike cheated.
I'm not saying he is involved but it seems like his hate of Veronica makes him dig in and take the opposite side regardless of facts.
D.
Part 9
Maybe it all comes out in the last episode but this series does nothing to further prove if Postle had an “inside man” accomplice. If she was trying to imply Roger, who left before the cheating started, was the accomplice she made a very weak argument.
It just seems like a ploy to regain her “internet famous” status that she wasn’t able to maintain on her own.
