Is The Epstein Pivot That Big A Deal
Is The Epstein Pivot That Big A Deal
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Is The Epstein Pivot That Big A Deal

How much of the original allegations are actually now denied? Is it not possible that the only thing that has changed is

09 July 2025 at 03:30 PM
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by Trolly McTrollson m

Trump is also a psyop.

Now that makes sense.


by Dunyain m

I will say, where are all the (now adult) girls working for Epstein that were allegedly giving rub and tugs to the Clintons and Trumps of the world? Given how these things go, shouldn't there be tons of women coming out saying they were Epstein victims, naming names of the famous johns they were being tricked out to, and filing lawsuits against Epstein's estate and the clients

I don't think most men are equipped for this conversation. Whatever emotion or reasoning goes into this, men have a hard time putting themselves in the headspace to understand it.

Two of the women in my life were subject to abuse as children and only brought themselves to talk about it in their 40s. One went to the other because they had the same abuser and had to really convince her to join in speaking up decades later.

The abuser has since ****ed off to go live in Brazil.

For all we know, half of these Epstein girls never made it to adulthood.

Your logic is sound, but this entire topic defies logic. The internet highlighting instances where false sexual assault accusations were weaponized have made it even harder for actual victims. I think this is one of the biggest reasons so many women want to protect their private spaces from intrusion by strange men.


by biggerboat m

That makes no sense at all. Or at least now that trump is sandbagging.

It really doesn't make any sense-- which is the beautiful thing about psy-ops in that they don't have to make sense.

But as I said earlier I have the feeling that the Epstein stuff is just being made up as they go along.


by Trolly McTrollson m

Trump is also a psyop.

by biggerboat m

Now that makes sense.

Trump got the liberals to start wanting war with Russia, and loving the FBI and CIA.

That was quite an accomplishment.


The real psy op was the “assassination attempt”. Not sure there is a single bit of evidence to suggest it was real




by Inso0 m

I don't think most men are equipped for this conversation. Whatever emotion or reasoning goes into this, men have a hard time putting themselves in the headspace to understand it.Two of the women in my life were subject to abuse as children and only brought themselves to talk about it in their 40s. One went to the other because they had the same abuser and had to really convi

I understand what you are saying. But given the publicity of this case and the alleged John’s, we are talking 7+ figure paydays. And most of these women would be in their 40s or older by now.

How is there literally 0 women, or lawyers, doing this calculation and taking their chances. Makes zero sense.


Virginia isn't the only one that has come out, though.

A quick internet search yields the following:

Annie Farmer
Maria Farmer
Courtney Wild
Michelle Licata
Chauntae Davies
Jennifer Araoz
Sarah Ransome
Juliette Bryant
Anouska DeGeorgiou
Taela Davies

But these girls spoke out publicly specifically against Epstein and Maxwell.

I think what you're asking is where are the girls who slobbed on presidential knobs, and for all we know, most of those girls have been disappeared or are currently doing a fent lean on some street in Miami.

Or, of course, the impropriety by island visitors has been vastly overstated and this really was mostly Epstein and Maxwell abusing kids. That's the worst case scenario for the government, because nobody will believe it.


by Inso0 m

Virginia isn't the only one that has come out, though.A quick internet search yields the following:Annie FarmerMaria FarmerCourtney WildMichelle LicataChauntae DaviesJennifer AraozSarah RansomeJuliette BryantAnouska DeGeorgiouTaela DaviesBut these girls spoke out publicly specifically against Epstein and Maxwell. I think what you're asking is where are the girls who slobbed on

Yeah. More and more it seems there is no list, because there is no actual clients.

And whatever was going on, it wasn’t an underage prostitution blackmail ring.


I feel like nobody is gonna believe anything about any of this now. Even if the files are released.


by Inso0 m

Sarah Ransom

There we go!


by Dunyain m

So what truth should we be gleaming from Tucker arguing Epstein ran a blackmail ring in behalf of Israel/Jews to control the US?

Probably not much. I'm assuming it would make more sense to put out that narrative than to have the narrative be that it was a CIA ran blackmail operation or something more US controlled-- which if it was a blackmail operation then I would think it would be the latter.

Do you think there was even an underage prostitution blackmail scheme at all?

I really don't know. It would have been a decently long time of them building this Epstein backstory for unknown payoffs which points to there probably being something underlying going on there, and then once Epstein started getting media attention on the early 2010s maybe his usefulness as a blackmailer wanned so he took on a new role.


by Luckbox Inc m

Probably not much. I'm assuming it would make more sense to put out that narrative than to have the narrative be that it was a CIA ran blackmail operation or something more US controlled-- which if it was a blackmail operation then I would think it would be the latter.I really don't know. It would have been a decently long time of them building this Epstein backstory for unknow

I have seen it floated on social media (by no one connected to any power structures that I am aware of) that it might have been some sort of Iran/Contra situation; where it may have been about funneling money for covert causes.


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Its long but there is a lot there


If anything it seems Epstein was maybe the one being blackmailed by some entity who had leverage on him because of his sexual proclivities. The idea that there is a long list of women coming out and reporting Epstein/Maxwell were sexually abusing them (which we already knew as he was arrested in 2005 and 2018 for this); but on top of this he was running a pedophile blackmail ring on behalf of CIA/Mossad and not a single girl has come out accusing any of the (alleged) many high profile johns seems completely improbable.

The most likely scenario at this point is Epstein was a pedophile who hired underage prostitutes, Maxwell was his accomplice, and there is no Epstein list, and no blackmail ring; although Epstein may have been an intelligence asset regardless (which the DA who originally gave him he sweetheart deal in 2005 admitted to).

And Trump and his inner circle has been caught in his own bad faith assertion there was one. And both the antisemitic right and Democrats are currently running with this story for their own ends.


And as Eric Weinstein noted, if someone was really interested in finding out what happened, they should be following the money. But literally no one is doing this. Instead of leaning birthday cards, so called interested parties should be leaking bank records.


Man that birthday letter lol


If you go through the history of Jeffrey Epstein and the people he worked with/for the amount of ties to CIA, MI6 and Mossad is insane. It is basically a who's who's list of every spy (many who later went on to become politicians) of note in those 3 nations. It is actually pretty wild how much the establishment is able to distract us from this and make us focus on misdirection bullshit like Trump's birthday letters.

As just a single anecdote of many; at some point in the 1980s when Epstein was still in his 20s he started his own finance company where his only client was Adnan Khashoggi, who was one of the biggest arms dealers of the 1980s and heavily involved in Iran Contra. So do with that information as you will.


by Dunyain m

And as Eric Weinstein noted, if someone was really interested in finding out what happened, they should be following the money. But literally no one is doing this. Instead of leaning birthday cards, so called interested parties should be leaking bank records.

Wyden says Trump admin sitting on Epstei...

“Big news from my investigators on Epstein’s sex trafficking operation: the Trump administration has an Epstein file detailing 4,725 wire transfers and almost $1.1 billion flowing through just one of his banks. Hundreds of millions more through others,” Wyden alleged in a post on the social platform X.


Epstein is like Covid, fake news but also only Trump can cure it.


I mean we have a pretty good answer why they are refusing to investigate. Because he was probably involved in CIA arms deals to Iran with notorious Saudi arms dealers (on top of a lot of other **** like this). And high ranking politicians and captains of industry, many who are still alive, were involved.

As curious as we all are, at some point we probably need to accept some bones are better left buried and move on. Epstein is dead. Maxwell is in prison. There is likely no elite pedophile prostitution ring; just the two of them.

Do you think the next Democrat administration will investigate and expose everything? Do you think they should? I mean, everyone is having fun with Trump and his compromised behavior. But at some point we have to accept this is much bigger than him, and let it go.


by Luckbox Inc m

Trolley isn't wrong although he's probably not wrong for incorrect reasons.But yeah Tucker isn't some freedom fighter or anyone interested in speaking truth to power. Remember his father ran the Voice of America (CIA propaganda outlet) for a number of years. The system needs people like Tucker so that people can be like "hey the MSM isn't giving us truth where should we turn? O

As interesting as the Epstein story is for all the sordid details, I think a far more interesting question as it pertains to our lives moving forward is asking who is Tucker working for, and towards what ends?

As I have mentioned before, for all his "hard hitting investigations bringing truth to power" into Israel and Jewish influence; these really are pebbles in the ocean compared to what is going on between the military industrial complex and Qatar. And he (and everyone else in the media) is notoriously silent and uninterested in all of this.

Even the whole thing with the Air Force One private jet seems to be misdirection to distract from all the economic and military deals Trump was making with Qatar when he was there.

How aware are any of you that Qatar is involved in the visa waiver program and dont need visas to travel to the US. Really, citizens from the country that sponsors Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood, and a ton of other Islamic extremism dont need visas to travel to the US? What is going on here?


by biggerboat m

I feel like nobody is gonna believe anything about any of this now. Even if the files are released.

That's why Trump would pound lies about easily disproven things like crowd sizes or how many stories in his buildings. It was a loyalty test. If they would believe stupid things like that, then he knew he could trust them to believe stuff like this.


by Land O Lakes m

That's why Trump would pound lies about easily disproven things like crowd sizes or how many stories in his buildings. It was a loyalty test. If they would believe stupid things like that, then he knew he could trust them to believe stuff like this.

I am not sure I saw Don Junior posted on IG nothing to see and every post is Your lying like your father and I am done . The dems are smart to push this as they know that Trump will not cave and even if he does Bill Clinton is old and not needed for the future

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