Is The Epstein Pivot That Big A Deal

Trump was the loudest voice pushing there was a list and Biden was covering it up.

I don’t recall you agreeing with this position then.

You have Trump derangement syndrome. You have no interest in any objective truth.

Your only interest is “What narrative is Most harmful to Trump in this moment”

If a democrat (or non MAGA republican) becomes president in 3 years, you will cease to have any interest in this story, and will be indifferent if the next president also says there is no list.

That is the case for most people posting in this thread right now.

However close they were, Trump and Epstein fell out in the 90s (the story is Trump screwed Epstein on a real estate deal) and never talked again. That is why he is not on any "Lolita Express" flight logs and never went to the island. If there was a list, it probably didn't go back that far, and he isn't going to be on it. Instead such a list would be a bunch of coastal elite power brokers, mainly Democrats, as Trump was at that time.

Which is why none of the TDS posters in this thread had any interest in such a list until Trump flip flopped and started denying there was one. And they will quickly lose all interest in such a list, when he is no longer the responsible party.

That is why the Tucker Carlson antisemetic MAGA right wing is the ones pushing this story the hardest. Because they are hoping the promised land is incriminating a bunch of Democrat Jews.

They are guessing Trump isnt going to be incriminated in anything. Him and Epstein had a falling out too long ago.

Would you have let your daughters go out on trump's yacht parties back in the day if they were only 14/15--which many were? Contestants in those 'model' searches were heavily encouraged to socialize with the judges(obv trump was 1) to try to gain their favor.

Now mix in some financial desperation/promises of potential fame/money etc and you have a perfect recipe for some cruddy behavior with that power dynamic. I can't remember if Melania made it onto any of them but she was definitely trying at some point--as they were casting a pretty wide net around the world with the feeder pageants.

Same could be argued with your stance, as now it could hurt Trump so you don't want to see this develop further.
Weird times.

Dunyain is a childless virgin

Come on now

Tucker just did a 1.5 hour podcast discussing Epstein. It is the hottest thing on X and Youtube right now.

It is just an orgy of Jew hate. His "historian" guest on the pod (who also argues Hitler was the good guy in WWII) even throws out the claim that a previous Israeli PM (Shamir) tried to assassinate President Truman.

Not a single mention of Trump at all. The liberal establishment wants this to be about Trump, and are trying their hardest to make it so, but it isn't.

I think that antisemitic friend of viktor is the same guy who said Churchill was the bad guy in WW2 and Hitler the victim

Is anyone shocked those 2 are steering clear of enraging trump supporters with some ugly truths? That's their entire bread and butter for any relevance at this point 😀

The whole ‘why do Dems care now’ is the laziest **** ever

Top to bottom this administration and their grifter influencer partners have made conspiratarding their entire identity on matters including and especially Epstein

Now because it’s politically inconvenient to keep it up you’re outraged that people who didn’t care are suddenly like ‘orly?’

Like the level of cognitive dissonance required to be dunshit and Lucy is truly hilarious

Trump himself has said in not so many words that he is on the list and that’s why he thinks it’s fake Russiagate 3.0. So I’m not buying this argument.

why do you guys lie so much?

I don't think this pivot represents any kind of major turning point, just some temporary belly-aching by the loudest and dumbest. The needle might jiggle a little bit but it won't move because these people don't actually care about justice or what happened to these kids and they never did, the entire value of the thing to them was its potential to expose some Democratic pedo cabal.

Despite talk about MAGA revolting it's nothing more than some of them still thinking they're on offense. Once it fully dawns on the slowest of them what Trump's recent actions actually imply, it's old news and a distraction from whatever nonsense is next up. Let me know when his polling numbers among Republicans drops. I'm sure it will be any day now

uh? there is no cognitive dissonance on our side.

We don't defend indefensible bullshit used to convince low iq, low info people to vote. We know it's necessary in a 2 party system and that literally the only thing that matters is how the vast majority of NPCs are going to react to it, not it's truth value.

There is conspiratarding because conspira******s have the right to vote because dumb people like you insist they do.

Same as there is pandering to give free ponies around because people who believe the state will give them free ponies have a right to vot, again because dumb people like you insist they do.

We play to win AT ALL COSTS given the rules. That's all that matters every time.

After the win, you play to try to win the next round. That's it. That's the game.And you are going to win in 2026 because of various reasons, so why are you so upset? because we won in 2024? play better next time.

Gargle my nutsack, homie

What is this ''your side'' exactly?
Considering 99% of the posters here disagree with you at best, and are horrified on a daily basis by your talk.

You really write this like you live in the US and are American.

Your not very stable friend attacked me and Dunyan (warping our names like they do in preschool). That's our side.

I live in the American empire, and if you sneeze we get the cold. Every detail of what happens on your side gets amplified here (with a delay).

Just to give an example from yesterday: italy just voted against the WHO new pandemic compact, so we retain at last the freedom to fully disregard any WHO decision in any future pandemic.

That's exceptionally important and only happened because Trump violently opposes the terrorist WHO.

My life and my family life are directly on the line depending on who is the American president and what the American congress decides.

And you know that, and it's true for you as well as a resident in Europe (although I don't know yet where in Europe).

We are all colonies why deny that?

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Anybody think this running non funny reply is getting old? This is supposed to be a site to debate. This creep just creeps.

If you don't have anything else to say why don't you sit this one out while the adults discuss.

I think one of the easiest explanations is, considering how much airplay trump/trumpers have given this stuff politically over the years, is the old to just not do anything while your opponent is making a mistake. Just sit back and let them crash it into the wall all by themselves.

I never considered Lewinsky a child.

It's all a big deal. As you get younger in age it becomes a bigger deal.

Suck my dick, dipshit

Edit: also being called a creep by someone who saw a picture of CN and basically said I will pay you for nudes is a wild detachment from reality, for sure

k, We'll mark you down for the minority on that one. My experience out in the wild since then has been pretty one-sided on that aspect of it.

Do you think trump has cheated on Melania since ~2016? We already know he has prior to that.

This. One of these dudes when into a pizza parlor with an AR-15 looking for pedos and all he found was pizza dough. Now these same dudes are calling it a hoax and projecting a bunch of bullshit.

Good luck finding where I said that.