Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
Hes not even the most hyperbolic democrat I've heard on the subject
Can confirm that Coordi is The Beast of Blitz.
He crushed me 3.5-.5.
do you think that gender affirming care constitutes the entirety of trans healthcare? or that children are the only ones that receive that healthcare? or that there are not other models of treatment?
do you have an explanation for the consistent, cross-cultural observation of quasi-trans people? or is it all just sexual deviance to you?
No giving minors hormones, some of which cause sterilization and others that have serious and irreversible consequences does not cover the entire range of "trans healthcare". Surgeries too. But it is a part of it and the part that was heavily debated with the morally bankrupt here in the forum
There is many things that are cross cultural because all cultures consist of humans. Humans gonna human
Good lord. Gender affirming care is not "giving minors hormones and operations" and it isn't sterilizing them and it isn't setting them up to be lifelong patients. It also isn't without parental knowledge, inclusion, or involvement.
How ******* ignorant can one person be?
The guy arguing that biological sex (not just "gender") is on a spectrum has called me ignorant. I wouldn't want it any other way
The actual doctors visits were documented by cbc and reported, among others. It was posted. But whatever champ. Keep making everyone laugh with your ultra sophisticated analysis on a range of topics
None of them are ever coming back
The only reason you’re still here is because I argued for it.
Do you understand how ****ing weird you have to be to get perma’d in this subforum?
No giving minors hormones, some of which cause sterilization and others that have serious and irreversible consequences does not cover the entire range of "trans healthcare". Surgeries too. But it is a part of it and the part that was heavily debated with the morally bankrupt here in the forumThere is many things that are cross cultural because all cultures consist of humans. H
I’m not understanding your position here. Is the view supposed to be that there is no such thing as being trans or is it that particularly children should not be transitioned?
rick,
Your certainty that I am searching for ways to gracefully concede that you are correct without explicitly admitting that you are correct is unbridled arrogance.
The only other possible explanation is that you don't know what the word concession means.
This is a terrible read
I was trying to as gently as possible to shame you for your absolute nonsense posting lately
Literally gaslighting saying nobody disagrees with me and when I say that’s bs you bring forward an example which is casually debunked in seconds because it’s such an outlandishly false statement that only a goldfish could have taken it as truthful
You also played gotcha games with “oh my heavens I’ve never seen men act differently when women are around and shame on anyone who would” to “yeah everyone self censors including me”
Probably just best to ban him for a couple of weeks because there's a slight chance he actually won't post for two weeks. With a perm he'll just be back tomorrow on a different IP tarding up the forum, albeit with the gas pedal only a quarter of the way down so as to not make it too obvious.
I didn't ban him
None of them are ever coming back
The only reason you’re still here is because I argued for it.
Luciom gets permabannrd for constantly espousing fascist hard right views while vic gets a free pass for constant anti Semitism? Does this mean the latter is acceptable? I'm not advocating for anyone to be banned but this is a blatant inconsistency as both are as persistent as each other.
Fair enough but I checked his last post and it didn't seem to violate the rules, certainly not in a permanent ban- worthy sense so again I hope the powers that be reconsider especially as other offenders- who btw are just as consistent- seem to be given a free pass.
I just read your reasons for voting to ban Luciom on that call out thread. Vic never admits when he's wrong, moves moves goalposts and devalues human life, such as concert attendees on Oct 7th and Palestinians in refugee camps, when he claimed Hamas (who he refers to as "the resistance") were justified in using refugee camps to launch rockets from and also justified Hamas summay executions of civilians. He then in the same breath engages in faux moral posturing about dead babies after justifying rocket launches from refugee camps which is the epitome of bad faith debate. That's to go with his persistent anti Semitic tropes and bad faith discussion and accusations of child murdering against other posters.
Now I'm not surprised Luciom got banned and ideally I completely understand why based on his history. And again I'm not advocating for banning anyone.
But tha said vic has been just as consistent as Luciom and this seems like a blatant double standard overall so again I hope the permanent is reconsidered.
Cheers.
I just read your reasons for voting to ban Luciom on that call out thread. Vic never admits when he's wrong, moves moves goalposts and devalues human life, such as concert attendees on Oct 7th and Palestinians in refugee camps, when he claimed Hamas (who he refers to as "the resistance") were justified in using refugee camps to launch rockets from and also justified Hamas summa
I was trying to steel man to see if it would provoke any sort of response. If I really wanted to ban him I would have just done it and always tried to be very clear with him with what would and wouldn't get him banned.
I don't see a ton of antisemitism from Vic, though he is anti Israel and anti Jewish institutions that support Israel which probably starts to ride that line. Vics point of views might be more mainstream than many would care to admit though. Luciom representing growing views and the potential dangers of those views were my two main reasons for continuing to let him post.
I was trying to steel man to see if it would provoke any sort of response. If I really wanted to ban him I would have just done it and always tried to be very clear with him with what would and wouldn't get him banned. I don't see a ton of antisemitism from Vic, though he is anti Israel and anti Jewish institutions that support Israel which probably starts to ride that line.
I regard you as fair and lenient and have stated before that one really needs to cross the line to get a ban from you and I mean in general, I know you didn't ban Luciom so I'm not having a go at you as a mod to clarify.
As for vic, he's referred to the IDF as the "eintzgruppen" and constantly compared Hamas to the Warsaw ghetto uprising. He also made a springtime for Bibi comment which is a clear Hitler reference- these are known anti Semitic tropes and he seems particularly gleeful about it and justifying October 07th atrocities is devaluing life and certainly isn't mainstream.
To clarify I'm not saying this to get into it with you or any other mod and ultimately I won't lose sleep over Luciom's ban as again ideally I do understand it and respect the decision even if I disagree. But I wish to make clear that I disagree not out of sympathy but for what I see as a double standard and I stand by that as it's a valid observation. Vic absolutely engages in anti Semitic tropes and it's not up for debate when you view his overall history. If he gets a free pass then so be it but again this is a blatant inconsistency. We leave it at that cheers
Luciom gets permabannrd for constantly espousing fascist hard right views while vic gets a free pass for constant anti Semitism? Does this mean the latter is acceptable? I'm not advocating for anyone to be banned but this is a blatant inconsistency as both are as persistent as each other.
I agree with you.
That said, Vic's posts are mercifully short and he doesn't write 50 posts a day.
I was trying to steel man to see if it would provoke any sort of response. If I really wanted to ban him I would have just done it and always tried to be very clear with him with what would and wouldn't get him banned. I don't see a ton of antisemitism from Vic, though he is anti Israel and anti Jewish institutions that support Israel which probably starts to ride that line.
Wat?????????
I regard you as fair and lenient and have stated before that one really needs to cross the line to get a ban from you and I mean in general, I know you didn't ban Luciom so I'm not having a go at you as a mod to clarify. As for vic, he's referred to the IDF as the "eintzgruppen" and constantly compared Hamas to the Warsaw ghetto uprising. He also made a springtime for Bibi com
I agree with this whole post, but especially the bolded.
I was trying to steel man to see if it would provoke any sort of response. If I really wanted to ban him I would have just done it and always tried to be very clear with him with what would and wouldn't get him banned. I don't see a ton of antisemitism from Vic, though he is anti Israel and anti Jewish institutions that support Israel which probably starts to ride that line.
Okay, so antisemitism is acceptable as long as there's not "a ton" of it. Got it. Thanks.
For the record:
1. I don't think Lucy should be permabanned.
2. I don't think Victor should be permabanned.
3. I don't think anyone should care what I think.
To be fair and by Lucy's own logic, recidivism should never happen and 1st strike is bullet to the head.
Oh the irony...
So farewell, Luciom, Prince of Darkness.
Your main fault was in forgetting that online extremist edgelords are at least supposed to be entertaining and not tediously repetitive.
This is a terrible readI was trying to as gently as possible to shame you for your absolute nonsense posting latelyLiterally gaslighting saying nobody disagrees with me and when I say that’s bs you bring forward an example which is casually debunked in seconds because it’s such an outlandishly false statement that only a goldfish could have taken it as truthfulYou a
I'll let others be the judge of what actually happened. If it makes you feel better, tell yourself that you successfully "shamed" me in the eyes of others and take a victory lap around your house/apartment. I don't care.
