final table bubble (1): KQoff supershort in SB
10/2000 players left, avg stack around 10 bigs, on other table another three 4-7 big blind stacks.
Ive 3.67 bigs and assumed to have loads of fold equity to my shove from the SB,
as weve been playing the final table bubble for a century and it felt like no one was willing to call off another player lightly.
question 1) normal ICMish situation, shove KQoff?
question 2) here on GG we'll get a blind rollback that will set the average stack to around 40 bigs, shove KQoff?

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Thatβs why KJ was a jam when you still had FE
Iβm afraid of calling on ft bubbles, but Iβm shoving and terrorizing, you are call-happy but scared of shoving at the spot where 99% will scare-fold like I do (still referring to the KJ hand, this KQ is a jam cause you want him to call)
because they always have shit when I call them xD
Cause you need to double up and KQ is more than you could wish for in that situation. This deep itβs a call even to an EP shove, not to mention an open shove from SB into BB. Itβs like aces here, youβre close to being blind dead due to your r/folding and you get KQ, this deep you play it like aces with one difference- the scenario where there is a jam and a call, then and only then you can fold
Extremely easy shove.
ladies and gentlemen,
from today on, KQoff is a premium:

so I forget the thought that maybe having no fold equity here may result in icm in not shoving:
BB's yolo calling range, I think we had millions of millions more fold equity than here:

so it's another spot where they'll be overfolding.
With 3.6bb, 5 handed (blinds will hit you twice often as in full table), KQo is a premium. Itβs your last chance hand, double up or leave the donkament situation. You should be jumping to call or get called here
You forgot one thing - whatβs your aim. Youβre not playing to βreach the ftβ. Thatβs not the goal. What you really want to is to finish 1-3. Maybe that will change your perspective
shit, I forgot my aim
Not only itβs a jam, this hand is sooo good here one might find limp-trapping better, but Iβd shove just to reduce the variance by an inch
Also the 40-100bb GG rollback is just misleading, yesterday I had 7bb on the bubble and next hand we reached the FT and I was 18bb
