The murder of Charlie Kirk
Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?
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No, I clicked through to the actual sources, and they simply aren't as controversial as they're being made out to be. He says in multiple instances that he doesn't agree with that lifestyle but respects and welcomes them to his movement all the same. You can agree with 90% of what someone says and not come to blows over the last 10%.The posts here and in the other threads in
I hope you really weren’t expecting good faith characterization of Charlie kirk from this crowd?
Have you seen the horrible hateful rhetoric these guys have been posting in the Israel thread?
This is mild in comparison.
I don't agree with what he said about George Floyd. I was mad when George Floyd die. But you need to listen to the whole interview. He believe the death was due to overdose and the knee on neck is approve by training. Blacks use that death to riot and loots through out America. But yea I am sure the looting is the correct course of action. In the mean time people gathering aro
Oh. Ok.
We already got way above what i needed from the reaction of leftists: their cheering for the death is the proof we needed of their complete incompatibility with civil society.
So too is theocracy masquerading as politics.
Don't know much about him but my take is that Kirk operated more like a preacher than a political activist. Most of his policy positions only really make sense if you start from the premise of the Bible and specifically his interpretation of it. There's literally no civil justification for telling someone they shouldn't be gay.
I don't agree with what he said about George Floyd. I was mad when George Floyd die. But you need to listen to the whole interview. He believe the death was due to overdose and the knee on neck is approve by training. Blacks use that death to riot and loots through out America. But yea I am sure the looting is the correct course of action. In the mean time people gathering aro
This is like saying Gary Plauche shooting his sons abuser on live TV was the wrong course of action. Of course it wasn't "right" but people definitely understood why it happened
He doesn't mince words in that video. He believes gay people live in sin, and they should be called out. It's very clearly stated by him in many places, including that video that he responds to that woman which was posted in here.
This issue is so simple and straight forward... It should be telling that this is even a discussion.
If Kirk was not intolerant of gay people, he would have just agreed with the women's passage, that to love thy neighbor as thyself means to love and accept gay people as they are.
/End of video
Instead he goes into this crazy retort that begins with him saying, even the devil quotes scripture.
My brother in christ this guy you are revering used the death of George Floyd to elevate his fame by framing it as Floyd deserved to be murdered
Him and his followers reveled in his death. A father of five
You cannot be this dense
edit: in before Floyd was a bad father or overdosed or whatever
Well Kirk like most of the right did believe that Floyd overdosed.
He did make antisemitic comments about white American Jews. Whether he was antisemitic or not, I don't know.
Let's face it, anyone who doesn't display full throated support of Israel's right to murder children is antisemitic. I am not familiar with the comments that you mention but I saw enough of his tweets supporting Israel that I'm a little surprised he is now being smeared in this way.
No I didn’t. Literally the opposite.
Groypers are proudly antisemitic.
I said that is the only clear thing they disagree with Kirk on.
Abortion as well. Fuentes type are pro abortion because it kills a lot of non white babies (literally: that's their take on it).
I think people who avoid contact with that toxic material (and i understand why someone would want to avoid it) can't fathom the depth of evil of groypers/fuentes/tate types.
They had some piece by i think Fuentes which went on like 40+ min (i obv didn't watch it all), the basic idea before i quit was something like "i was anti abortion as a christian but abortion is actually a gift from god to let black women murder their babies so we have fewer blacks around us", stuff like that.
Kirk as is known was an extremist "against all abortions in all cases" and unlike in the case of homosexuality, he did want to legislate his moral preferences about abortion; if he could have, he would have criminalized abortion in all cases without exceptions. He cheered when some states tried that and so on.
No, I clicked through to the actual sources, and they simply aren't as controversial as they're being made out to be. He says in multiple instances that he doesn't agree with that lifestyle but respects and welcomes them to his movement all the same. You can agree with 90% of what someone says and not come to blows over the last 10%.The posts here and in the other threads in
You are such a dishonest scumbag. I posted the source earlier and he clearly DOES NOT say that. Maybe he looks past someone having anal sex if they support Trump, but he doesn’t believe gay is a real thing you can be, you can only be someone who turns away from God by living in sin. His views on it from 5+ years ago before he became a Christian provocateur are irrelevant. This was from one year ago, much more recent. It’s not a clip so there’s no context missing.
https://thecharliekirkshow.com/podcasts/...
Anyone celebrating this is trash, I agree, but the biggest leaders in the Dem party are condemning it, and if we want to play the game of who is saying what, there are huge media figures on the right calling for revenge before we even knew the identity of the killer.
You’re a dishonest person and a crybully though so of course you’d weaponize the death to make a political point as your ilk loves to do. Again, you’re probably just as happy he’s dead as the crazy lefties you’re decrying.
Let's face it, anyone who doesn't display full throated support of Israel's right to murder children is antisemitic. I am not familiar with the comments that you mention but I saw enough of his tweets supporting Israel that I'm a little surprised he is now being smeared in this way.
Both the left and far right are trying to portray him as more antisemetic than he was.
The left because they want to character assassinate him, and the right because they view antisemitism in a positive light, so they are trying to portray him more positively in their minds.
correct about what? i said we had to wait until they catch the perpetrator to know why he did it.We already got way above what i needed from the reaction of leftists: their cheering for the death is the proof we needed of their complete incompatibility with civil society.That stays true even if the killer went after Kirk becaues he was too moderate or too much pro Israel or wha
You seem like a healthy and stable human being
You are such a dishonest scumbag. I posted the source earlier and he clearly DOES NOT say that. Maybe he looks past someone having anal sex if they support Trump, but he doesn’t believe gay is a real thing you can be, you can only be someone who turns away from God by living in sin. His views on it from 5+ years ago before he became a Christian provocateur are irrelevant. This
I guarantee you InceL, ******* in Juan, Lucy, Mongo and the rest are sadder the assassin was nothing more than a nondescript white boy than they are that Kirk died
No, it was pretty universal that chauvin was a murderer. You can look through the Floyd thread here to see for yourself
25-30% of respondents in polls routinely answer that the Chauvin verdict was wrong.
Supposing only people on the right say that, that's a serious majority of the people on the right (only approx 1/3 of americans are on the right)
Thanks i am pretty proud of how well i can navigate these troubled times, keeping my moderate, wise takes on politics, even when there are many attempts from all angles of society to push me toward going "crazy" about something.
If you need help to achieve the same don't hesitate to ask
New marching orders are that Utah state college radicalized him to be antifa
correct about what? i said we had to wait until they catch the perpetrator to know why he did it.We already got way above what i needed from the reaction of leftists: their cheering for the death is the proof we needed of their complete incompatibility with civil society.That stays true even if the killer went after Kirk becaues he was too moderate or too much pro Israel or wha
I only respect this take if you hold the same for every single right-winger who ran to call for civil war style retribution after a single person which they tried to say were democrats in general are also removed.
This includes libs of tiktok, matt walsh, and elon musk, to point to a few notable names.
This is like saying Gary Plauche shooting his sons abuser on live TV was the wrong course of action. Of course it wasn't "right" but people definitely understood why it happened
Once again you seem to have that sort sick mentality that you know what right or wrong w us minority and how you feel sorry for us. Are you sure you not a closet reverse racist? See what I just did there? I am entitle to call you a racist and all you can do from now on is defend it with prove that you are not but it can't be proven true.
One of three things will happen:1. We’ll find out the shooter was liberal leaningTrump, MAGA, etc: the radical left is a poison we will root out no matter what2. We’ll find out the shooter had no political leaningTrump, MAGA, etc: the radical left radicalized this person through their toxic rhetoric. We will root them out no matter what3. We’ll find out the shooter was MAGATrum
I win the prize!!!!!
I guarantee you InceL, ******* in Juan, Lucy, Mongo and the rest are sadder the assassin was nothing more than a nondescript white boy than they are that Kirk died
Right bc clowns like Kirk are easily replaceable. But an albatross for Luciom to hang around the neck of Dems and "Marxists" lasts forever.
