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Is Venezuela lost for decades? Is it going to become a full blown pariah state? The opposition leader Guido seems like a

06 May 2019 at 12:22 AM
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DOJ Maduro indictment
https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/142232...

On page nine it alleges Maduro facilitated cocaine trafficking via Honduras. Yet Trump pardoned the former president of Honduras for drug trafficking.


by corpus vile m

I am certainly no expert on indictments but what the **** is that opening sentence?


by coordi m

I am certainly no expert on indictments but what the **** is that opening sentence?

Bad Hombres bro. I actually edited my post to comment on page nine and its mention of Honduras, seems Trump's pardoning of the former Honduran president wasn't justified, if the DOJ comment is anything to go by.


by corpus vile m

DOJ Maduro indictment
https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/142232...

On page nine it alleges Maduro facilitated cocaine trafficking via Honduras. Yet Trump pardoned the former president of Honduras for drug trafficking.

this was my favorite part


their coke was so weak they couldnt sell it in Miami.


by Victor m

right bc there are no morals when it comes to the Western Empire. is it morally proper to just ignore the USA and let them overthrow the government, abduct or assassinate the leaders, kill millions, and give up all resources? like in Iraq, Libya, Syria, and now Venezuela. bc that absolutely would have happened to Russia.

Why does anyone in this sub spend time responding to this guy?

Honestly.

He speaks in hyperbole.

He's an attention seeker.

He's lied in here on core values. He's said, I don't vote for either major party. Then at other times, has said he has.

His world view is that of an eight-year-old.

He's exhibited moral narcissism this entire time.

Just ignore him.


Too easy of an operation. Likely big collaboration from inside. A lot of the dead (maybe the majority? I wouldn't be surprised) seems to have been cubans, not even venezuelans. Lack of interest in an actual regime change and bluntly implying he does not want the opposition leader to assume. Looks like a stunt to me, powerful people wanted Maduro out probably, and I don't think this is a very absurd assumption. They gave what Trump likes the most, a win. Yeah, my speculation is that anything that is visible to us atm is part of a stunt.

Still have a lot of popcorn here, to keep watching as it unfolds hehe


Moral Narcissism (or Moral Grandiosity)

Core trait:
The person derives superiority from not participating and from positioning themselves as morally above all available choices.

Typical language:

“Both sides are evil.”

“I refuse to play their game.”

“I’m too principled to choose.”

Psychological function:

Avoids accountability

Avoids tradeoffs

Avoids being wrong

Preserves a sense of moral purity and intellectual dominance

Importantly, the refusal itself becomes the identity. The stance is “I transcend your flawed system,” not “I’m uncertain.”

This is narcissism expressed through abstention, not assertion.


seems you have no rebuttals and are reduced to rambling personal attacks




by Victor m

seems you have no rebuttals and are reduced to rambling personal attacks

It's impossible to do much else when you think Putin is a good guy.


right but I dont think hes a good guy.


by FreakDaddy m

Moral Narcissism (or Moral Grandiosity)Core trait:The person derives superiority from not participating and from positioning themselves as morally above all available choices.Typical language:β€œBoth sides are evil.β€β€œI refuse to play their game.β€β€œI’m too principled to choose.”Psychological function:Avoids accountabilityAvoids tradeoffsAvoids being wrongPreserves a sense of moral

What sort of weird pro voting propaganda is this? Was it funded by the Rand Corporation?


Cuba next?

U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, the son of Cuban immigrants, also pointed to Cuban involvement in Venezuela over the weekend, saying that Maduro’s internal security apparatus was headed by Cubans and that they were β€œpropping up Maduro.”

β€œAll the guards that help protect Maduro β€” this is well known β€” their whole spy agency, all that were full of Cubans,” Rubio said.


by Victor m

seems you have no rebuttals and are reduced to rambling personal attacks

There's no rebutting you Vic, you don't engage in any serious ideas. That's the point of my post.

All of your posts are just attention seeking, and claiming moral superiority.

It's easy to prove. You have 80k+ posts on this forum. Find me one that you're not engaged in claiming or pushing for moral superiority. You can go back as far as you want. I don't read this forum all the time, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that maybe one exists somewhere... but I've never read one that wasn't doing those things.

But I do take back saying that people should ignore you. If they want to feed you, then they should. I'm just surprised that some of the more intelligent people that post here still engage you.


buddy its a politics forum. find me anyone who isnt claiming or pushing their sides "moral superiority".


by FreakDaddy m

But I do take back saying that people should ignore you. If they want to feed you, then they should. I'm just surprised that some of the more intelligent people that post here still engage you.

I mean..................


by Victor m

this was my favorite part their coke was so weak they couldnt sell it in Miami.

I expect better from drug lords.


pretty funny how mad vic gets morans 'round here without really even doing anything lol

by biggerboat m

Cuba next?

no, cmon, take greenland, cowards. it'll be fun


by Victor m

buddy its a politics forum. find me anyone who isnt claiming or pushing their sides "moral superiority".

You're doing it again.

Moral signaling is prevalent in politics, but it is neither the only motive nor the dominant one in all cases.


by corpus vile m

DOJ Maduro indictment
https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/142232...

On page nine it alleges Maduro facilitated cocaine trafficking via Honduras. Yet Trump pardoned the former president of Honduras for drug trafficking.

You gotta pay the troll toll.


by 72off m

pretty funny how mad vic gets morans 'round here without really even doing anything lol

no, cmon, take greenland, cowards. it'll be fun

What's funny about it?

It derails any serious conversation... constantly.

Do you think shitting on everyone and claiming moral superiority is cool? Do you have difficulty in moral reasoning also?


by 72off m

pretty funny how mad vic gets morans 'round here without really even doing anything lol

no, cmon, take greenland, cowards. it'll be fun

He works more than a full time job posting here and trolling lmao.


Lol Schumer saying who is next - it is like they have just completely forgotten about for political convenience sake that they had a bounty on Maduro's head.


by Victor m

right but I dont think hes a good guy.

Except for his invasion of Ukraine, which you described as moral.


It seems Colombia might be next.

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