If you lived in Minneapolis, and an ICE agent demand ID.....
......would you comply. (You have broken no law. You're just walking into the grocery store.)
Why or Why not?
but their mostly arresting violent rapists so its good for you. and even when their not a violent crimal they are an illegal.
brother, this is just factually incorrect. the vast majority of the people abducted are legal.
Its pretty much just an anti trump protest. which I do actually support and I feel like you guys are being cowardly about as a nation and should have done way more way earlier. You just couldn't have picked a more silly thing to lead with over everything he has done which is why I like to go a little ham in this thread. Instead of bridge building and getting the idiot magas off of the trump coolaid your picking a political American centric point that 25-40% of the country actually wants extremely bad so they will never join your side (illegal immigration usually violent)
brother, this is just factually incorrect. the vast majority of the people abducted are legal.
like that's just not true your so wrong victor. do you know what legal means? I wonder. The one out of however many 10000? illegals that accidently gets sent away is literally what im talking about. Its the bad in the good.
And even if it were true (its not) you guys are not protesting against that. your protesting against all deportation which includes the criminals and illegals. No one would be annoyed if you were protesting "legal immigration deportations" We would all be on your side.
If your a legal immigrant and you commit a crime you become an illegal immigrant. that might be whats confusing you
Green Card Holders (LPRs): Lawful permanent residents can be arrested and deported if they are convicted of certain crimes, such as aggravated felonies, crimes of moral turpitude, or drug offenses.
Its weird you keep saying things matter of factly that are incorrect and then you get corrected and just ignore the correction and say the same thing again anyways like its a matter of fact but then its still not and here we are
Then you speak like you are in the position of superiority but you are in the position of ignorance so its really strange
If your a legal immigrant and you commit a crime you become an illegal immigrant. that might be whats confusing you
you are the one that is confused. hell, they are deporting people for supporting Palestine like they are trying to do for the Khalil guy. they are deporting people with duis from 10s years ago.
they are locking people up and torturing them and bc it takes nearly a year to see a judge, many of these people sign the papers to get deported. the ones who make it to a judge are almost always allowed to stay. ofc, after they get free, who knows what happens to them?
my feed is just full of people getting arrested despite having legal papers or citizenship. they are dumping the citizens in the freezing cold days later. they are abducting legal children and incarcerating them for months on end. they are shooting citizens and bragging about it.
If your a legal immigrant and you commit a crime you become an illegal immigrant. that might be whats confusing you
Green Card Holders (LPRs): Lawful permanent residents can be arrested and deported if they are convicted of certain crimes, such as aggravated felonies, crimes of moral turpitude, or drug offenses.
How certain are you that you know what the words in bold mean?
This is one of the dumbest things I've read on the internet and I just came from the 9/11 thread.
its literally how it works tho? your like on a trial if you commit a serious crime you go to jail and back to your country. why is this controversial? Your trying out for the team not everyone makes it
Its weird you keep saying things matter of factly that are incorrect and then you get corrected and just ignore the correction and say the same thing again anyways like its a matter of fact but then its still not and here we are
Then you speak like you are in the position of superiority but you are in the position of ignorance so its really strange
no one has ever showed any data that ice is sending back legal immigrants. They are all illegal at a federal level. maybe they were legal and broke a law or overstayed a visa but that does not make them legal.... Whenever i asked you posted those 2 guys that were mistakes victor is claiming widescale.
It acually doesin't even make sense for ice to target the legal ones they don't have unlimited man power. there's too many for them to ever deport all of them so they focus on the worst
you are the one that is confused. hell, they are deporting people for supporting Palestine like they are trying to do for the Khalil guy. they are deporting people with duis from 10s years ago. they are locking people up and torturing them and bc it takes nearly a year to see a judge, many of these people sign the papers to get deported. the ones who make it to a judge are
SO THEY ARE NOT DEPORTING THEM? THEY ARE RELEASING THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE LEGAL? LMAO. you guys just dont know how words work for you . legal/illegal is interchangable. deported/attained interchangeable murder/accident interchangeable . This is why we can't have conversations you literally don't use words correctly.
The last time i clicked one of your x links and investigated why someone was detained it was because they assaulted a police officer on camera. you know just because someone claims they were detained illegally doesn't always make it true
SO THEY ARE NOT DEPORTING THEM? THEY ARE RELEASING THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE LEGAL? LMAO. you guys just dont know how words work for you . legal/illegal is interchangable. deported/attained interchangeable murder/accident interchangeable . This is why we can't have conversations you literally don't use words correctly.The last time i clicked one of your x links and investigated wh
They are dumping the citizens after a few hours or days and detaining the legal non-citizens in torture camps for months on end.
The last time i clicked one of your x links and investigated why someone was detained it was because they assaulted a police officer on camera.
This is blatantly false unless the officers are somehow able to see the future.
Also she obv didn't assault any officers as she wasn't even charged with it.
SO THEY ARE NOT DEPORTING THEM? THEY ARE RELEASING THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE LEGAL? LMAO. you guys just dont know how words work for you . legal/illegal is interchangable. deported/attained interchangeable murder/accident interchangeable . This is why we can't have conversations you literally don't use words correctly.The last time i clicked one of your x links and investigated wh
This is because it's always about the "evil Jews" w/ Victor. You could be talking about peanut butter, and Vic will blame the Jews for it sticking to the roof of your mouth.
He's not antisemitic, though, and he's allowed on this forum. So don't get confused. Not antisemitic... totally allowed.
Well Hamas instigated the current conflict with full knowledge of what consequences they may face. Personally, I think a policy of abandoning our allies after they’re attacked on multiple fronts sets a poor precedent but to each their own. Again, all of your questions have been addressed in the IP thread so no further reason to derail. And regardless, Harris would have been
The Hamas attack was evil. Israel's response was/is considerably more evil by the standards of any person of good will imo.
This is because it's always about the "evil Jews" w/ Victor. You could be talking about peanut butter, and Vic will blame the Jews for it sticking to the roof of your mouth.
He's not antisemitic, though, and he's allowed on this forum. So don't get confused. Not antisemitic... totally allowed.
what are you even talking about? theres nothing about Jews in those posts. hes talking about an American citizen of Somali descent who was mobbed and attacked and handcuffed by ICE. one of the videos shows that after she was handcuffed she made a motion that resembled spitting. she obv didnt spit bc she faced no charges. iirc she was released in 2 days.
antisemitism is judging Israel the same as any other nation. nobody accuses me of anti-americanism when I view it the same as I view Israel. both are genocidal theiving states full of the worst people in humanity.
Of all the murders in Chicago (for example) in the last five years, what percentage do you think were committed my law enforcement?
Who claimed that most of the murders in Chicago or any other city were committed by law enforcement? I doubt that Klansmen committed most of the murders in Mississippi in 1950 either, but it doesn't follow that the public had no reason to be concerned about lynchings.
Victor is obviously correct that we have lived in a world without any ICE agents. That said, I don't think ICE in 2007 was an equivalent shitshow to what we see now. For at least a year now, the recruiting pitch has been "Do you have a pulse? Do you want to bank some overtime? Do you want to get these immigrants the hell out of the country? Great. Join ICE." Unsurprising
Point was though that it's not insane for ICE to not exist. It has existed for less than 40% of my life. 120 Dumbocrats (a majority) voted against the bill that created it in the House. Dumbocrats didn't have to keep it going when they had the power to abolish it.
(unsurprisingly Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer voted for it)
I am still trying to get over the thread morphing into a poster trying to make MOVE sympathetic instead of the people they terrorized. MOVE was the exact opposite of the people being killed in Minneapolis.
Deporting a lawful resident doesn’t convert them into an illegal immigrant. That might be the dumbest thing I read today.
