POG Politics Thread Version 3
Come on in! Since Dustin is taking his ball and going home, it's time to start a new politics thread.
illegitimate censorship: 'preservation of status quo' for the sake of concentration of influence
legitimate censorship: avoidance of personal damage to fellowmen
and then ask whether that same goal is being accomplished in liberal society
I do enjoy a good round of cui bono, even though I think as a practice it tends to affirm the consequent.
That being said, let's play!
Is [preservation of the status quo for the sake of the concentration of influence] accomplished in [contemporary] society [through the use of social media algorithms]?
I think the Cambridge Analytica scandal actually points to "no".
but it should not be taken for granted that (make sure you're sitting down, birdman) material is the best measure of quality/utility/worth/etc beyond basic comforts and security - golden handcuffs, eg.; harken encore Epicurus!
Don't worry, I have no idea what the hell this sentence means.
My justification for demanding freedom of speech is that individuality is a necessarily good (like cogito-level, 'but for individuality...') and that individuality is itself inextricably entwined with expression. There's also the practical benefit of growth through exchange, but I know that one is more perilous: basilisk itt.
1) Why is individuality good in and of itself?
2) In what way does the liberal "freedom of speech" promote individualism?
Linux Desktop isn't popular because it doesn't solve the problems windows solves with devices, multimedia, etc.As the great Terry Davis said, Linux just wants to be a 1970s mainframe. All those file permissions etc have no place in a consumer OS. MacOS is an attempt to make a user OS on top of Linux and it is decently popular. I recently learned how to deploy the tiny immutable
the focus on user permissions definitely turns off people who consider themselves the only user, but it's pretty seamless in Ubuntu/Mint
not sure whether Nvidia compatibility issues are intentional or not...
for me the problem with Mac has always been the commitment required to their exclusive ecosystem, somehow being constitutively closer than windows to linux while spiritually leagues further
1) Why is individuality good in and of itself?
2) In what way does the liberal "freedom of speech" promote individualism?
1) There is no group that is not constituted ultimately of individuals, and it's nothing new to posit that "Man is the measure of all things".
2) You've loaded the question, and maybe also begged it, by including the "liberal" qualifier. You've also modified my formulation. I didn't say 'freedom of speech promotes individualism'. I said 'expression is inextricably entwined with' it. How can you, or even I, know who/what I am if not through my expression thereof? True art is for the artist.
homeland security just told all the socials to hand over personal data of people who criticize ice
freedom of speech
1) There is no group that is not constituted ultimately of individuals, and it's nothing new to posit that "Man is the measure of all things".
This did not answer the question I asked you.
2) You've loaded the question, and maybe also begged it, by including the "liberal" qualifier. You've also modified my formulation. I didn't say 'freedom of speech promotes individualism'. I said 'expression is inextricably entwined with' it. How can you, or even I, know who/what I am if not through my expression thereof? True art is for the artist.
Ok?
CIAOC today said about Venezuela that it is
1) South of the equator (0% of Venezuela is south of the equator)
2) That Maduro has "cancelled elections" (He hasn't, not even the US state department has claimed this)
We now live in a nation where doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the press destroys information, religion destroys morals, and our banks destroy the economy.
-Chris Hedges
Seems overly optimistic tbh, like some of these things ever upheld the ideals they espoused.
old macdonald had a farm
c i a o c i a
and on his farm he had some libs
c i a o c i a
with a lie lie here and a lie lie there
here a lie, there a lie, everywhere a lie lie
We now live in a nation where doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the press destroys information, religion destroys morals, and our banks destroy the economy.
-Chris Hedges
reading Chris hedges is the darkest **** ever. he is real AF. but he's always like "we are all doomed to misery forever, just completely at the mercy of our sick overlords"
if he had charisma they would assassinate him for sure
We now live in a nation where doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the press destroys information, religion destroys morals, and our banks destroy the economy.
-Chris Hedges
Seems overly optimistic tbh, like some of these things ever upheld the ideals they espoused.
and mark is like "did you see how I can use my phone for everything now!? hell yes! i'm going to chickfila! in my tesla. and gonna watch the SpaceX launch" and laugh at all of us for suffering
We now live in a nation where doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the press destroys information, religion destroys morals, and our banks destroy the economy.
-Chris Hedges
Seems overly optimistic tbh, like some of these things ever upheld the ideals they espoused.
"now"
look at all the idiot hacks who are popular pundits or reporters who praise the empire and condemn all criticism. now try to think of any actual opposition to the empire that has any kind of voice. there aren't any. Phil Donahue had a very popular show(maybe their number 1 show?). he opposed war after 9/11 and was never heard from again. Chris hedges was a leading reporter for
google abby martin for reasons unrelated to you saying that she's smoking hot
lol at thinking she's been deplatformed - she has about a million followers on x and insta combined and was a guest on rogan
and lol at thinking that someone who's claim to fame was being a 9/11 truther and chosen to be a puppet on RT should have even remotely any kind of the clout she has
She was chosen to be on RT because they were fine with the targets she went after. When she started going after Russian interests, Putin invited her personally to visit the front lines to find the truth and that was the end of her show.
Not sure if it's been mentioned but she is also really pretty. From a recent livestream :
She looks fierce and fierce is my favorite feminine aspect.
at the risk of the old pointy elbows cliche, i mean she's cute but i wouldn't say much beyond that
i wouldn't go out of my way to talk to her at a bar if i were single
more importantly, given she's a conspiratard, she deserves a platform even less than linux
Wasn't Larry King on RT are we saying Larry King is a Kremlin propagandist.
and mark is like "did you see how I can use my phone for everything now!? hell yes! i'm going to chickfila! in my tesla. and gonna watch the SpaceX launch" and laugh at all of us for suffering
I would say you took the words out of my mouth. Damn, you nailed it. As I sit here in my nice warm house while rain and wind howl outside. Plus I open 2+2 and see this thread has exploded. I get a nice happy feeling.
