USA Goes to War Against Iran
Time for a dedicated thread to the war.
How long will it last and what will be the probable outcome?
according to the wiki, the UAE backed STC attacked the Saudi backed PLC (who are the "officially" recognized Yemeni gov). the Saudis intervened to help the PLC and the STC lost. neither side is allied with Ansar Allah. STC and PLC were previously partners.
Saudi would never back Ansar Allah. they are Israel's bitches and their craven rulers never risk their plug for drugs and children.
Nobody cares what you think. You are like background noise. You don’t have to comment on everything.
People do care what geezer thinks because they converse normally with him, as opposed to you, who gets repeatedly ridiculed for hiding his mongi paint rapist identity (and not very well).
Large caravans of Shia militiamen are reportedly going into Iran from Iraq. They will mainly be used by the regime to suppress the internal Iranian population. At this point the IRGC in part can be thought of as a foreign occupation force comprised of Arabs whose main function is to suppress the indigenous Iranian population; similar to Nazi Germany in Vichy France.
The IRGC is losing some control over jamming internet; so some Starlink videos are coming out showing the massive repression going on in Iran's cities, often by Arab militiamen.
according to the wiki, the UAE backed STC attacked the Saudi backed PLC (who are the "officially" recognized Yemeni gov). the Saudis intervened to help the PLC and the STC lost. neither side is allied with Ansar Allah. STC and PLC were previously partners.Saudi would never back Ansar Allah. they are Israel's bitches and their craven rulers never risk their plug for drugs an
I am not sure anyone actually "attacked" anyone, except Saudi. My understanding is that the STC, backed by UAE, announced they were in charge of a region. Saudi Arabia said no and did some bombing. And the STC govt abdicated with no real fighting at all.
It is objectively hilarious to watch mongo’s alt go from:
1. Just asking questions to
2. Mongo with the mask slipping off to
3. Oh **** they’re figuring out I’m mongo, better distract them by making them think I’m dunking on lagtight
You’re still a rapist, homie. And suckbox, you’re still a piece of **** for a thousand reasons, but staking your claim to this imbecile is close to the middle
How do you feel making false accusations like that? Show me even ONE post that could be construed as me being pro-Iran.
They love your tacit support. I wonder how many more people will die because people like you eat up and parrot the Iranian propaganda. You do realize this is what they bank on.
Let me put all my cards on the table:
1. I don't support Iran other than their right to exist as a sovereign nation.
2. I don't support Israel other than their right to exist as a sovereign nation.
3. I oppose the USA/Israel war against Iran.
4. Hope that helps.
Isn't remotely in the cards? Like not this weekend or ever? So now you are fine being on the record saying that there will be no boots on the ground?
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I'm on record saying what I said: a ground invasion isn't remotely in the cards. Both the domestic and international support just isn't there for something like that. From the sound of things MAGA wouldn't either, let alone virtually everyone else.
I do think it's possible or even likely that we'll have some boots on the ground to open the Strait if it comes to that. So if I had to range it, I'd say at most < 10k. But not tens or hundreds of thousands of troops. The latter being what it would take to roll into Tehran and topple the regime.
Nor do I think we'd really need to. Protests are still going on daily in several cities. So I'm thinking we might do something to get the anti-regime elements armed so the Iranians can deal with regime at the ground level.
Please let me know if you ever see me get owned by it. Thanking you in advance.
All seriousness aside (as the late, great Steve Allen used to say): I almost always enjoy your posts and didn't think you were using 'termites' as some sort of ethnic slur or anything. Note well that my response to the person who criticized your use of the word was comedic.
We will see.They have been saying they are "banning Israeli shipping" for the last 2 years. So announcing they are "banning Israeli shipping" doesn't actually change anything. Talk is cheap. IF they actually start attacking ships in the Red Sea again on the pretext they are "banning Israeli Shipping" then we can say they are in. So far they haven't done anything but talk.
Something more than talk
The Iranian backed Houthis in Yemen have confirmed they have attacked Israel for the first time since the start of the US-Israeli war with Iran.
The group says it fired a barrage of ballistic missiles "targeting sensitive Israeli military sites" in response to the targeting of Iran, Lebanon, Iraq and Palestinian territories. It adds that its operations will continue until the "aggression" on all fronts ends.
It comes after the Israel Defense Forces said it intercepted a missile from Yemen.
Please let me know if you ever see me get owned by it. Thanking you in advance.
All seriousness aside (as the late, great Steve Allen used to say): I almost always enjoy your posts and didn't think you were using 'termites' as some sort of ethnic slur or anything. Note well that my response to the person who criticized your use of the word was comedic.
Then my apologies.
Is this what you are talking about?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025%E2%80...
I dont think the Saudis ever backed the Ansar Allah (aka the "Houthis").
It looks like it had nothing to do with the Houthis and he just hallucinated that.
Houthis shoot missiles at Israel all the time. One missile at Israel isn't any indication Houthis are joining the fight. If anything it could be a signal they aren't, but are saving face. They will say they are "deterring the Zionist entity" while actually not really doing anything.
A lot of what Arabs do which Westerners dont really have a theory of mind for is face saving posturing.
A lot of what Arabs do which Westerners dont really have a theory of mind for is face saving posturing.
I'm fairly sure that concept is not unknown in the West. President Trump seems to be doing it, for instance, when he claims that the war is won (yet it carries on, with still more bombers arriving at Fairford for combat duty), or when he claims that the British aircraft carriers are mere 'toys' compared to the USN's, and that he doesn't need other navies' help anyway (yet he has requested such help and is vocally angry at not getting it, and meanwhile the USS Ford, world's mightiest warship, has had to put into Split, Croatia for emergency repairs after a disastrous fire on board, not to mention the difficult matter of the great ship's 650 non-functioning toilets -- the British carriers have had their problems, but nothing that bad so far).
I'm fairly sure that concept is not unknown in the West. President Trump seems to be doing it, for instance, when he claims that the war is won (yet it carries on, with still more bombers arriving at Fairford for combat duty), or when he claims that the British aircraft carriers are mere 'toys' compared to the USN's, and that he doesn't need other navies' help anyway (yet he ha
Ok. Fair enough. I will amend that many in the West are willfully ignorant of face saving posturing when it suits their ideological priors. They are more than willing to acknowledge and call it out when Trump does it; but not when actors they view more favorably (such as Arab Islamic Extremists) do so.
I contend the proper way to analyze Houthis announcing they are at war with Israel but will not violate the so-called US-Houthi truce as NOT entering the conflict in any meaningful way.
Saudi has diverted much of its fossil fuel exports through areas Houthis are more than able to hit. Shooting random missiles at Israel while not going after this soft target pretty much indicates they are not joining the fight at this point.
Iran is demanding international recognition of its sovereignty over the Strait of Hormuz as a core condition for ending its ongoing conflict with the United States and Israel.
Are you opposed to doing anything about that? Just cede control of the international waters to Iran?
Iran is demanding international recognition of its sovereignty over the Strait of Hormuz as a core condition for ending its ongoing conflict with the United States and Israel.
Are you opposed to doing anything about that? Just cede control of the international waters to Iran?
They already controlled it. Now it's just being made official.
Houthis shoot missiles at Israel all the time. One missile at Israel isn't any indication Houthis are joining the fight. If anything it could be a signal they aren't, but are saving face. They will say they are "deterring the Zionist entity" while actually not really doing anything.
hopefully they will show restraint and it was just a signal. Hopefully the usa and israel will allow them to.
Iran is demanding international recognition of its sovereignty over the Strait of Hormuz as a core condition for ending its ongoing conflict with the United States and Israel.
Are you opposed to doing anything about that? Just cede control of the international waters to Iran?
I oppose ceding international waters to Iran.
By definition, it it's international waters it doesn't belong to Iran.
Iran is demanding international recognition of its sovereignty over the Strait of Hormuz as a core condition for ending its ongoing conflict with the United States and Israel.
Are you opposed to doing anything about that? Just cede control of the international waters to Iran?
We’re pretty much being forced to see this war to the end if we don’t want to be left in a far worse geo-strategic position than when we entered it. Stopping their nuclear program may have been a pyrrhic victory at best without seeing the regime change through.
I have a feeling the neo-cons knew this and were banking on it. They were also banking on Trump being too dumb or narcissistic not to know this.
Ok. Fair enough. I will amend that many in the West are willfully ignorant of face saving posturing when it suits their ideological priors. They are more than willing to acknowledge and call it out when Trump does it; but not when actors they view more favorably (such as Arab Islamic Extremists) do so. I contend the proper way to analyze Houthis announcing they are at war wi
Yeah, Iran isn't doing anything "meaningful" enough to force SA's hand. Same with Israel. Iran could be doing a lot more, but the regime knows if they go too far.... boom, boom out go the lights.
We’re pretty much being forced to see this war to the end if we don’t want to be left in a far worse geo-strategic position than when we entered it. Stopping their nuclear program may have been a pyrrhic victory at best without seeing the regime change through.I have a feeling the neo-cons knew this and were banking on it. They were also banking on Trump being too dumb or narci
It's hard to say. But in hindsight taking Khameini out may have taken out the only restraint the real hardliners had.
