USA Goes to War Against Iran
Time for a dedicated thread to the war.
How long will it last and what will be the probable outcome?
Not only is Iran winning the actual war, they’re winning the online trolling war as well. Sad!
I know. It's because every time we finally crack that egg, you agree that you would vote for Trump.
Were you absent from school when I told the class that I thought Trump should be impeached?
It's been so long, I can't remember the last time I said I'd still vote for Trump. Certainly before Trump started the war with Iran.
Okay. 2028. Harris + whichever VP vs Donald Trump Jr + Donald Trump 4547
I'll burn that bridge when we get there.
That said, my current answer is "I don't know for sure, but probably (80/20) Trump, Jr." (I'm assuming I HAVE to vote for one or the other and can't vote third party or not vote at all.)
Were you absent from school when I told the class that I thought Trump should be impeached?
It's been so long, I can't remember the last time I said I'd still vote for Trump. Certainly before Trump started the war with Iran.
Yeah, yada yada...
That said, my current answer is "I don't know for sure, but probably (80/20) Trump, Jr." (I'm assuming I HAVE to vote for one or the other and can't vote third party or not vote at all.)
Lol. Exactly.
That said, my current answer is "I don't know for sure, but probably (80/20) Trump, Jr." (I'm assuming I HAVE to vote for one or the other and can't vote third party or not vote at all.)
Every time I think you've turned the corner.........
Is there a reason why you want the most despicable humans in charge?
Were you absent from school when I told the class that I thought Trump should be impeached?
Just impeached, or impeached AND convicted? There’s a huge difference.
The piece of trash was already impeached twice and nothing happened, because the amoral shitbags in the Senate have no spine and refused to convict. Is that why you want him impeached, because it didn’t change anything and the despicable human that you voted for could continue to be despicable and in charge?
That said, my current answer is "I don't know for sure, but probably (80/20) Trump, Jr." (I'm assuming I HAVE to vote for one or the other and can't vote third party or not vote at all.)
When you say things like this, it makes me doubt that you are as critical of Trump as you claim to be.
Don Jr. has most of the same flaws as his father, but is even dumber and of course has no experience doing anything of any consequence.
Tehran Declaration (2003): Iran agreed to full IAEA cooperation and to temporarily suspend uranium enrichment.Paris Agreement(2004): Iran committed to temporarily suspending enrichment and conversion activities.Joint Plan of Action (2013): An interim deal where Iran froze parts of its program in exchange for reduced economic sanctions
Did Iran allow for inspectors to randomly stop by to make sure this was happening?
The decisive action is to do something significant about Irans nuclear ambitions and global influence. Epic Fury was a massive success. Now we are in the negotiation phase. The President has to be flexible in his decisions. People are failing to see what has been accomplished up to this point.
Not only is Iran winning the actual war, they’re winning the online trolling war as well. Sad!
Their propaganda is definitely working on the weak minded.
So very decisive
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whi...i...
WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump’s abrupt reversal on his plan to help ships go through the Strait of Hormuz came after a key Gulf ally suspended the U.S. military’s ability to use its bases and airspace to carry out the operation, according to two U.S. officials.
Trump surprised Gulf allies by announcing “Project Freedom” on social media Sunday afternoon, the officials said, angering leadership in Saudi Arabia. In response, the Kingdom informed the U.S. it would not allow the U.S. military to fly aircraft from Prince Sultan Airbase southeast of Riyadh or fly through Saudi airspace to support the effort, the officials said.
Trump surprised Gulf allies by announcing “Project Freedom” on social media Sunday afternoon, the officials said, angering leadership in Saudi Arabia.
Other close Gulf allies were also caught off guard; the president spoke with leaders in Qatar after the effort had already begun.
A White House official said in a statement when asked about some Gulf state leaders being caught off guard by the announcement of the U.S. effort to help ships transit the Strait of Hormuz, “Regional allies were notified in advance.”
The lying just doesn't stop.
Project freedom lol. ******s.
The legislative branch can't legislate, the judicial branch can't judge, and the executive branch can't execute.
U.S. intelligence says Iran can outlast Trump’s Hormuz blockade for months
A confidential intelligence community assessment delivered to the White House also finds that Iran retains a substantial missile and drone arsenal.
Nothing but successes from this admin.
It's interesting to see the people who don't take issue with the war but rather with how it's being run
¿por que no los dos?
It's interesting to see the people who don't take issue with the war but rather with how it's being run
I take issue with the war. We shouldn't be there in the first place, but it is also mind-boggling how incompetent they are now that they started it. Probably a good thing for Iran, I guess.
It's interesting to see the people who don't take issue with the war but rather with how it's being run
Because these are moves I learned not to take in civ VI.
Iran is essentially your #3 military for team east. Albeit, other than china its a pretty shitty teams as your #2 spot just burned through a quarter million slaves to not take the town they wanted.
Everything seems to be as it youd expect - only caveat is that Trump has seemed to put his foot on the brake more than I had thought. Although hes probably learned a lot since then. So I guess I give him credit for that. Things would be different if Bush and co entered into the presidency last month - one of many being one dictates hoa decisions on market returns and the other doesnt gaf about it.
My sources are telling me military attacks by the US are back on. The ceasefire has been rejected. I’m still gathering more information.
It might actually the UAE attacking.
A refusal by Saudi Arabia to allow the US to use its bases and airspace to provide a military escort for oil tankers passing through the strait of Hormuz lay behind Donald Trump’s decision to shelve the plan days after it had been launched.
Riyadh told the White House it would not allow its Prince Sultan airbase to be used to mount the operation billed as Project Freedom, which the US presented as the successor to the bombing campaign called Operation Epic Fury.
Saudi Arabia refused to drop its objections despite a personal call between the crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, and Trump, NBC reported.
The confrontation – not denied by Riyadh – underlines Saudi Arabia’s desire for a permanent end to the damaging US-Israel war on Iran on almost any terms, in contrast to its more assertive Gulf neighbour, the United Arab Emirates.
In a sign of the Emirates’ frustration with Riyadh’s caution, the UAE has already quit the Saudi-dominated oil producers’ club, Opec, and is now considering leaving the Arab League as well.
The UAE as a signatory to the Abraham accords has long been closer to Israel, but the tensions within the Gulf have widened as the war has dragged on, causing untold damage to their economies and international image.
The Emirates are furious that they have been the biggest target for Iran’s attacks, and felt there was insufficient solidarity across the Gulf.
Saudi Arabia also feared Project Freedom did not have clear terms of engagement and could turn into a risky naval confrontation between Iran and the US, marking the effective end of the ceasefire that had been in partial force since 7 April. Iran had explicitly said it would treat the US military escort of oil tankers or attacks on Iranian shipping as a ceasefire breaches, exposing Gulf states to further attack.
An end to the ceasefire would not only result in a naval conflict in the strait, but also Tehran resuming its damaging drone and missile attacks on US bases in the Gulf and energy installations in the region. Those attacks have probably caused more damage to Gulf infrastructure than previously reported.
The Saudi intervention will also be seen as a late expression of Riyadh’s lack of confidence in how Trump has handled the conflict. Riyadh was often left looking like an aggrieved but powerless victim of a conflict it had never advocated. It was neither impressed by the degree of protection the US provided from Iranian attacks or the coherence of White House strategy.
It’s looking like the attacks on Iran are retaliation of US forces being attacked in the Straight.
Israel has just called an emergency cabinet meeting.
There are a ton of tankers in the air at this moment. This is possibly in preparation of an Iranian attack. They don’t want these tankers on the ground to be destroyed.
This is a developing situation.
