2/5 ~ AQs?

You state $35 is a giant iso, but we have no idea whether or not this is an iso or not. You say you have no memory of his play.

Players at 2/5 tend to iso more often than at 1/2 or 1/3. If this was 1/2 I would just call and try to drag the limper along because chances are high that it's a raise with a real hand vs. an iso with a weaker one. At 2/5 I think it's a 3! more often. Never folding.

i very much doubt u want a flatting range here

$140 / fold.

I think this mostly depends on villain which you don’t have much of a read on.

Though you’re at the top of your non-premium range, it appears you face a premium. You’re in very bad shape vs AA, KK, QQ, & AK - against everything else you’re a flip at worst.

I think call first from the bb in most situations, but if you do that here, you take a flop without knowing more than you did preflop.

I like the raise (125) / fold advice, because you give v the opportunity to re-raise and let you get away from the hand or v calls and caps himself as likely not having the big hands that have you smoked.

My arrogance leads me to believe that I can outplay this guy postflop if he calls.

However, I would not blame you for a fold preflop - both you and I like exiting early in bad situations, but it would not be standard. Still, I can fold these marginal situations OOP without blinking and wait for bread and butter spots.

I probably trust my instincts more with folds than any other read. When v gives me the vibe that they have it, I can get out of the way. I think this is a very bad fold on the surface, but it would not be the worst play you ever made.

Unless you have some solid read that a $35 open is an indication of pure strength, this is a straight up 3!. Some people open larger than usual with their weaker hands that they don't want to play post-flop like JJ or AJ and will fold to pressure. Others it's just AA/KK/AK and you can lol fold. But versus an unknown, I'm just 3!ing to find out what they are made of. If he jams, we can just fold and still lose less than if we flat and the flop hits us enough that we can't get away this shallow.

3bet/call > 3bet/fold. Calling and letting the fish into the pot is prob superior to both though. Y'all 2000 and late.

Grunch:

You can flat call or 3B. It's pretty nitty, but you can also just fold.

Not sure what you're asking here. There wouldn't seem to be enough info in your OP to lead us to think one action is clearly higher EV than the others.

Ok in game, for a sec 3bet or fold crossed my mind.

Felt bad to fold. Wasn't too sure about 3betting facing such giant raise.

Maybe folding is a bit better such villain is 'unknown' atm.

In game I proceeded to treat my stack as shortstack and play a nitty shortstack strategy.

H calls
V1 calls while making some speech saying something like he's got a shitty hand and he'll join the fun etc.

3way pot 105
Flop Q♦4♦3♣
xx
V2 cbets 65
Hero??

Exploitable fold.

He's c-betting big into two opponents. If he's doing that with AK or JJ, good for him.

if you can't 3bet the open theres no way you can call. i get its a weird size but i dont really know what you're hoping to do flatting 7x oop in what is likely 3 ways from the worst position

i think i ran this on gtow and gave oop limping 8% w some traps but not many and it wanted ip to iso 20% here as button linearly (it doesn't give the option to overlimp) and you were 3bing like 7% of hands to ~17.5bb. if his range is too strong to 3b vs then i dont see what calling really does for you and you can't really put in 6bb oop here to 2. the only way i would ever do this is if the limper is insane whale.

post looks like whatever. probably xr and gii is better than just calling. you actually get to lead the flop quite a bit as you have the strongest range here

his size ofc is very good but there's no way you can do this pre and fold. its just hemoraghing money. the way this works is you x/r AQ!bdfd, u call the ones w bdfd, u call most fds, and worse qx. we are indifferent with jj / tt with a diamond. the ss there is with sb leading the flop for b33 ~half the time. in terms of bluffs think the very fractional combos of 77 or like 76ss (no i don't think you should flat either preflop but there has to be some range to get here with and who knows what that looks like)

really though look at pre charts until you understand them / why we do what we do. like i cannot emphasize what a torch it is to play for thousands of dollars and allegedly spend time trying to get better and not pay for gtow. the people on the forum are niceish but are not going to be able to help you beat 2/5+ :(

Call was the worst option
Now you face a difficult situation.
If you’re truly playing like a shortstack, this is a jam - but that could be a punt.

The problem is that if you call $65 now, the turn likely changes nothing - will you call another big bet then?

You put yourself into a guessing game which we try our best to avoid.

The fallacy to me is that more players in the pot doesn’t mean more to win, it means much less chance to win.

Think about it. You couldn’t have flopped much better for your hand and doc thinks it’s an auto-fold. He might be right.

The lesson is that we don’t have to defend the big blind like in a tournament. In a cash game, we want to avoid putting money in when we’re unsure - it’s unnecessary.

You win in position value betting with the best hand. You can’t get value or info out of position, so it’s ok to fold.

I think you’re probably bout to win this hand, but I think a lot of your posts are asking if it’s ok to fold. If you don’t remember the guy, he’s probably not getting out of line with his big bet preflop. I could fold AQ, maybe even TT.

Too many players make plays based on what they think they’re supposed to do and then get there lost. This is why we float.

Exploitative poker is about taking advantage of other’s mistakes, not putting yourself into position to make mistakes.

I'm not folding flop and I don't love raising. Guess I call.

If we're calling 7bb OOP pre with the plan of flopping 2 pair+, then I think we should fold pre instead.

Donk flop.

You want the fish to call and the BTN to raise, then u 3! Jam it in.

fold preflop is probably best without other reads. The big iso is probably because the fish will call any sizing. If he is doing it with AK/QQ+, you could hit and lose a big pot because you are dominated.

I don't think the answer is to try to get stacks in or make villain uncomfortable facing a 3!