2p2 data breach/security exploit
Still not sure where the correct place should be but was recommended to post here:
Are the moderators going to let the players know about what happened, there could be the possibility then of responsible disclosure rather than just a pure data dump.
Joey keeps he dms full, cause he doesn't want to face things.
Joey is dming me trying to get me to back off and chill about things.
Isn't that telling to you all in and of itself? How come a straight up poker player doesn't say "Geez the cheating expose threads eh? NVG? Ya obviously this guy knows things, OBVIOUSLY there is problem having him in those threads...lets pressure the mods to let him talk about the truth"
Instead I'm getting dms from joey telling me 'lets talk off site we are being monitored'
I want to talk in the players pubic eye joey. Not in private with any of you.
Son, we live in a world that has cheaters, and those cheaters have to be outed by men with podcasts. Who's gonna do it? You? Doug Polk? Joey has a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Ideal Poker, and you curse the mods. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what they know - that suppressing Ideal Poker, while tragic, probably saved threads; and Joey's existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves poker players and games and forums.
Some more context for people on all sides:
Stuff on the internet doesn't go away. Just because you delete something doesn't make it gone.
Take this conversation for example. Joey balked. We all understand what I mean. That stays with his rep forever right?
2p2 can't make that disappear nor can the context disappear or its relationship to the behind the scenes information I have.
What's happening is big tech and deepstate take 'ai snapshots' so that anything that goes on the internet (or whatever is accessible by the snapshoters ie our emails if its the NSA etc) becomes immortally part of public record.
This is a problem you see that 2p2's old guard are trying to deal with and mitigate
Son, we live in a world that has cheaters, and those cheaters have to be outed by men with podcasts. Who's gonna do it? You? Doug Polk? Joey has a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Ideal Poker, and you curse the mods. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what they know - that suppressing Ideal Poker, while tragic, probably saved threads; and Joey's existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves poker players and games and forums.
Oh do you think doug polk is going to say 'an information dump that exposes cheaters....well i'm dolk polk and I care about moral poker and ideal poker....i'll use my influence to make sure jbouton gets to be heard....'
no.
dolk polk will be on the players side of an integrity shake up at the same time phil galfond shows up to support giving the truth to the players.
Those guys aren't interested in truth for the game guys, I'm sorry about your heros, they don't care about trustworthy poker DUCY?
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that the mods provide, and then questions the manner in which they provide it! I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way.
Son, we live in a world that has cheaters, and those cheaters have to be outed by men with podcasts. Who's gonna do it? You? Doug Polk? Joey has a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Ideal Poker, and you curse the mods. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what they know - that suppressing Ideal Poker, while tragic, probably saved threads; and Joey's existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves poker players and games and forums.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that the mods provide, and then questions the manner in which they provide it! I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way.
But we want the TRUTH.
I put out the theory that the players are collectively being sold the lie that raked poker or more rake is better than less rake or no rake. My ideas, key phrases, were targeted and banned, there was a collective hidden effort to display to the players and other mods that I was crazy and not worth listening to....
Mason Malmuth (@MasonMalmuth) on X
More Rake is Better. Here's a link to my Publisher's Note for the July issue of our
Two Plus Two Poker Strategy Magazine where I give some statistics from this year's WSOP. https://t.co/q2cCcdECYk We started a discussion thread for this on our forums: https://t.co/kFQBMHOdky
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Negreanu did a whole pokerstars campaign on why MORE rake is better for the game.
And MY ideas are crazy?
Now I have proof, 2p2 worked against the betterment of the game in a horribly damning way.
If sklansky malmuth and dnegs are so good at poker how come they can't reason that lower rake is better for the players?
Or does every 'player' here assert that MORE rake is BETTER?
Why does it matter what thread it's in?
Just post whatever it is you're going to post.
This guy too. Can't trust the heroes.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that the mods provide, and then questions the manner in which they provide it! I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way.
You come across to any SINCERE observer as an account with OBVIOUS intent to disrupt the conversation. Which is great because its showing everyone the moderations true colors as they don't ever tell you stop the disruption.
And behind the scenes I saw the truth of this, how the moderation works to all this kind of thing, even tho the moderation has SUPPOSEDLY been flipped over.
Its a ruse.
Why does it matter what thread it's in?
Just post whatever it is you're going to post.
I am posting it what are you talking about?
You have been part of the control of false narrative not only in the ukraine/russia conflict thread but all also the bitcoin thread- and its well known I'm the most knowledgeable person in the poker community on the subject and related subjects.
You are a security leak for not only the players but this forum from the view of the admin as well. I have pointed this out many times.
All of the SINCERE poker players would like to have me in ALL of the cheating expose threads. But there seems to be a STREAK of 2p2 moderation efforts in concert with STRANGE accounts that don't seem to care about having reasonable dialogue.....that is hell bent on keeping me from these threads.
I don't even know what Ideal Poker is. I also don't want to know what it is in case you're considering explaining it to me.
No idea why everything always has to be about you. You even have your own NVG thread to discuss whatever you like.
You guys are so guilty and caught red handed for hiding all this.
You think you can just make it disappear? You OUTSOURCED IT!!!!!
Did you know some of the work you banned of mine included reference to Szabo's:
"Trusted Third Parties are Security Holes"
Nick Szabo https://nakamotoinstitute.org/library/tr...
2001"
[QUOTE=Szabo]As a result, we propose a security protocol design methodology whereby the most risky and expensive part(s) of a security protocol, the trusted third partie(s), are designed in parallel with security protocol(s) using those parties. The objectives of cost and risk minimization are focused on the TTPs rather than the security protocols themselves, which should be designed to suit the cost and risk minimized TTPs.
We also briefly discuss and reference research and implementation in security mechanisms that radically reduce trusted third party costs and risks by distributing automated TTPs across several parties, only a portion of which need to act in a reliable or trustworthy matter for the protocol to be reliable or trustworthy.[/QUOTE]
You aren't supposed to use them.
They are supposed to be considered security leaks. You are supposed to design AROUND them. Thats how Ideal Poker was conceived, a p2p poker implementation with NOT TRUSTED THIRD PARTIES. Just like bitcoin right.
Szabo is the number one contender for being Satoshi Nakamoto.
In this forum there is a group that was laughing and mocking bitcoin and p2p poker 10+ years ago and over the years.
That group is the SAME group that wants the old history gone.
I don't even know what Ideal Poker is. I also don't want to know what it is in case you're considering explaining it to me.
No idea why everything always has to be about you. You even have your own NVG thread to discuss whatever you like.
I'm not allowed to participate in NVG. I have special threads everywhere on this forum. I'm not allowed to participate in the bitcoin thread.
How come this place is full of mods that think that believe and uphold this principle that more rake is better than less rake:
Mason Malmuth (@MasonMalmuth) on X
More Rake is Better. Here's a link to my Publisher's Note for the July issue of our
Two Plus Two Poker Strategy Magazine where I give some statistics from this year's WSOP. https://t.co/q2cCcdECYk We started a discussion thread for this on our forums: https://t.co/kFQBMHOdky
Twitter•07/01/2019 1:46 AM
How come I can't participate in the cheating expose threads? Why are we not allowed to talk about Ideal Poker? WHO bans phrases and ideas?
I thought Nash was most likely.
We are saying Nash right now, it's not banned or censored or being used in a derogatory way.
I don't have to beat your shitty cartel you guys. Thats dumb poker. Thats immoral poker. I just have to create moments of snapshots for the AI.
Shall we continue about what types of information I am going to leak to the players community?
Where's josem?