AMA About Dating (Las Vegas)
Hey, I am BetAgainst. 51yo White Male. Las Vegas. I am 6'1" around 200. Balding. Ugly face. Dad bod. Bad posture. Poor complexion. Bad teeth. Always broke due to degenerate gambling. However, I have enjoyed a pretty successful dating life over the last ten years. I have dated models, strippers, bottle service girls, cocktail waitresses, and a few high level professional or independent business women.
I am starting this thread because I am in a stable long term relationship right now (very happy) and I want to share how I got to this place. And I have a ton of notes from dating coaches that I am wanting to data dump somewhere before I delete them. And I have helped many of my friends (mostly younger than me) find girlfriends that they are happy with.
Anyway, I have tons of great pick up stories and some solid dating/relationship advice. Ask away!
TEASER: Three don'ts (and WAY more important than they seem)
Don't disgust her.
Don't annoy her.
Don't disappoint her.
Always. Women are constantly screening men for any reason to reject them. The biggest rejections are lack of confidence, lack of social proof, lack of social intelligence however, high on the list of reasons for rejection is poor hygiene. Take a shower. Brush your teeth. Wear clean clothes. Don't pick your nose. Keep your junk so fresh and so clean.
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Women want to hang out and have fun way more than men. However, they are way more selective than men. Your job is to be that fun cool guy that provides them with that opportunity void of judgement.��
Exactly what do you think "hanging out and having fun" entails?
I'm guessing it's something that would not be fun for me.
And what exactly did you mean by "lack of social proof"?
Man, your stories are gold. I’m all about learning from real-life experiences like this. One thing I’ve found in the dating scene, especially here in Vegas, is that confidence and being laid-back really do the trick.
Man, your stories are gold. I’m all about learning from real-life experiences like this. One thing I’ve found in the dating scene, especially here in Vegas, is that confidence and being laid-back really do the trick. A buddy once put me onto tosituhma.com, and honestly, it gave me some good insight into how people think when they’re looking for connections or just trying to have fun.
Someone sure sounds jealous of OP)))
Exactly what do you think "hanging out and having fun" entails?
I'm guessing it's something that would not be fun for me.
And what exactly did you mean by "lack of social proof"?
Women are all about emotion and vibe. For the most part anything that elevates their emotional state. My female friends and the girls I have dated like to hang out in social environments, preferably with a group, talk, joke, laugh, have some drinks, eat some food, listen to music, dance... Parties, bars, restaurants, etc... Girls love that **** and they want to do it WITH guys. They enjoy our company just as much as we enjoy theirs.
In this context "social proof" means demonstrating social acceptance particularly by females (being with a group of girls or even just being friends with the bartender). My wingman and I would always take out 3-4 of our female coworkers with us. I could get ANY girl in the bar to come drink with us simply by saying, "Hey, my friends and I are about to do some shots do you girls want to come over?" I would not have nearly as good of results if I was buy myself walking around the bar trying to buy girls drinks.
One night we were at the bar about to do shots and I noticed this really cute girl sitting across the bar by herself. I yelled, Hey! You want to do shots with us? What do you like Tequila? She shook her head no and went back to gambling. I yelled again, Hey don't be shy! You can sit next to my friend Haley! She came over and sat with us. I was joking and laughing with her. Things were going good. I got her IG and then we kinda got separated. I saw her again by herself and sat down next to her at the bar. I said, you ready for another round? Hey, bartender can we get two more tequilas please? The bartender comes over and says, Bro that's my girlfriend. :p
How are the drugs, are they laced
Man, your stories are gold. I’m all about learning from real-life experiences like this. One thing I’ve found in the dating scene, especially here in Vegas, is that confidence and being laid-back really do the trick.
EXACTLY.
I was at RR at Rocks Lounge (and this is DURING covid). Masks were mandatory. Cute girl at the bar. She is drinking a martini and reading a book, not joking. I am about five seats away from her. No one is between us. She mentioned some obscure song to the bartender. I yelled out (to her and the bartender), I love that song! She laughed and said, "Really?! No you don't." I said, Sure I do and mentioned the band name. We chatted and I said, Hey, can I come sit next to you? I don't have any friends. She said, "Okay." We chat. She plays chess. She wants to play me. I say, No I'm too good. It won't be any fun for you. Now she REALLY wants to play. She wants to go to her room. I CAN TELL SOMETHING IS OFF HERE AND IT COMES UP LATER. We chat some more and we are getting intimate. We are rubbing each others legs and talking quiet. I say, I REALLY want to kiss you right now but we'd have to take these ****ing masks off. Is that okay? She says, "Sure". Now we are making out at the bar. After a few minutes I say, I think we should get out of here. My place is right across the street. Come with me. She says, "Okay". We get up and I am leading us to the door. The casino is crowded now so I take her hand leading her through the crowd. I can feel her slowing down, slowing down, stopping. I stop. I turn and say, What's up? She says, "Can we have one more drink before we go?" I say, Absolutely. We go to the bar and have another drink. Afterwards I say, Girl I'm done drinking and gambling. I gotta go. Let's go back to my place and relax. She says, "I really like you I just don't feel comfortable going to your place." I say, No worries. Let's go back to your room. She says, "We can't. I'm actually here with my boss and we are sharing a room." At this point I am like OKAY WTF?! REALLY?! However, I keep my cool. I say, Hey no worries. I understand. I still have to go though. Let me get your IG so we can hang out the next time you are in town. She asks, "Do you have a car?" I say, It's right outside. She asks, "Can we go to your car?"
I was confident.
I was laid back.
I was persistent.
And I was very patient.
Baby steps for the win.
I used to go to a rave night once a week here in Vegas. I used to date girls from that scene. So, I did some coke and some K. This is like two years ago... I was a ****ing idiot. So much of that is fentanyl or cut with it.
I don't do any drugs off the street now. Beer wine liquor and weed from the dispensaries.
I used to go to a rave night once a week here in Vegas. I used to date girls from that scene. So, I did some coke and some K. This is like two years ago... I was a ****ing idiot. So much of that is fentanyl or cut with it.
I don't do any drugs off the street now. Beer wine liquor and weed from the dispensaries.
Hell yeah brother…
I used to go to a rave night once a week here in Vegas. I used to date girls from that scene. So, I did some coke and some K. This is like two years ago... I was a ****ing idiot. So much of that is fentanyl or cut with it.
I don't do any drugs off the street now. Beer wine liquor and weed from the dispensaries.
What was your favorite rave spot in LV? Area 51, Discopussy or like clubs clubs? Fentanyl is dangerous and all, but sex on molly is so good, hard to give that **** up lol
What was your favorite rave spot in LV? Area 51, Discopussy or like clubs clubs? Fentanyl is dangerous and all, but sex on molly is so good, hard to give that **** up lol
Like I said I have been out of that scene for a minute but yeah, A51 Discopussy. Also, check out The Usual Place in Freemont East(?). Local spot, local DJs, locals, lol. Fun place to meet girls. They have a nice little bar. Outside smoking area (enclosed patio). There's usually a little hotdog cart out front. There is no "real" VIP or table service so everyone has to mingle. There's a lot of reasons to move around. If your at the bar, "Hey I'm goin to go smoke. Wanna go smoke?" If you're in the smoking area, "Hey I need a shot. You wanna go do shots? Let's go to the bar."
Also, follow the local DJs you like on SM. That way you can get updates on where the party is at. Get to know the Djs. 😉
FUNNY story about being an older guy dating younger girls. Before I was in the scene, I had met this girl and spent like TWO WEEKS chatting her up via text/IG trying to get a date. Finally she asks, "Do you like techno/EDM type events?" I'm like, Oh yeah, sure. (I don't) She says, "Well, I will be at the usual place tonight if you want to swing through." I say, Sweetie we're kinda just getting to know each other... I don't know where your usual places are..." She says, "It's a bar downtown." And I'm like, "OH! THAT Usual Place."😆
I had no idea WTF she was talking about.