MISC/RANDOM/BS Golf Chatter Thread
Figured since every other forum has these...this one deserves one too.
Random golf chatter
Should I buy this? / is this us
A friend of mine was involved in a road rage incident at a Taco Bell, and a guy fired a 9mm into the back of his car. It was stopped by his golf bag. He showed me the hole in it when we were playing yesterday. Crazy.
holey shaft
Oh my.
Random question.... Is it easier for pro's/good players (or good bunker players) to play out of wet sand vs dry sand or fluffy sand?
I personally said wet sand probably would be more preferred.
Firm sand is what pros want. That’s how they are able to spin it so easily and control distance. Wet sand is typically good but too much dampness causes problems.
Fluffy sand is despised. The average golfer would be very surprised at how little sand is in a tour bunker.
That's interesting. I do hate me some fluffy sand.
Fluffy sand is the worst, especially if the bunker shot is pretty long.
The pros would love the course I play. "Firm" would be an understatement.
Yeah I've always said wet sand is better. I feel it looks intimidating when wet but if you're committing to the shot and have good technique then its very controllable. Where it gets uncomfortable for players I feel is when the player is kind of a picker and doesn't really get into the sand.
This all sprung up because a friend of mine said that dry fluffily sand was better and I was adamant wet sand is better for control.
So, my father-in-law insists I need new clubs that are fitted for me. I bought my woods second hand. My driver and irons are hand-me-downs from him. The irons were fitted for him. They seem fine but he firmly believes they aren't. He says I'm bending over too much.I figure that when I break 90, I might reward myself but it just feels like if I'm not very good it ain't the
Your father in law is correct.
Given the size difference, the first order of business is to check the lie angle. This is a must. You can adjust to different lengths via setup with hand position, knee bend, wrist angle - etc. However, lie angle will only be correct at one specific hand position - particularly if the club is too short for the player (if too long, you can always choke up).
Is your miss with the irons is a slice / fade? This is pretty typical for a taller player using irons that are too short / flat for them as the toe will dig first and open the face on missed strikes. I'm not saying that's the ONLY reason - as face / path typically play a part as well - but improper lie angle / length will absolutely impact you adversely.
Driver doesn't really matter that much imo. It's more an optimization thing for distance and flex thing for consistency. If you're happy with how it feels and can find the center of the face - it's not as big a deal as the irons. I can hit my GFs driver as well as my own despite it being short, high lofted, and ladies flex.
The other thing I'd note is that you really don't want to ingrain bad setup habits due to improperly fit equipment. I get the "it ain't the clubs" mentality - however if you put in 50k reps - your body is going to make compensations to get the best results possible - and that's going to become part of your swing DNA. Every golfer spends years trying to undo dumb **** they built into their foundation when they were starting (just look up Tiger's famous Ole swing video where he talks about getting stuck because he fires his hips early from junior golf). Don't be stubborn and hurt your future self.
Ruling question... I think it's pretty obvious but going to put it out there.
So I was a 3rd wheel in a match yesterday. We tee off on the 1st. One guy hits it into the right rough. It's a place where you can lose your ball but you don't really expect to. Like if you hit it there you would never play a provisional. The right rough is a long side the 3rd fairway. Some hackers coming up the 3rd. One of them shanks a shot right at us and literally bounces over our head. He shouted etc so everything was fine but it was around where our guy hit his ball.
Anyway, I play my shot 1st into the green whilst they look, Then I walk over and the guy who can't find his ball suggest that the people going up the 3rd may have hit his ball, We did find a crappy top flite ball nearby which may have been theirs.
I said if you think that they may have hit your ball then take a free drop and continue. I even said because we don't know 100% then maybe go back 10 - 15 yards and drop it in the rough to make it a little fairer. The other guy said drop the ball (So I'm taking that as he's agreed).
They end up halving the hole in Par's.
The guy who lost his ball ended up winning 3&2.
Wake up this morning to find a lot of messages saying the match should be replayed and he doesn't agree with what happened.
I personally said "you need to man up and take it on the chin. You can't agree with a ruling only to not agree with it later on when you lose" The other guy obviously refuses to replay the match which he should imo.
You don’t have to be totally 100% the ball was lost, the wording in the rule book is “reasonably certain”. In this case it seems to fit especially with the Top Flite being found. Having said that, the opponent would have been within his right to not agree with it and believe it’s a lost ball in which case an official would need to make a ruling.
However both agreed, the match was played out, the card was signed, so it’s official and done. Even if it’s 100% the wrong ruling it’s over. Match result stands.
And you’re right, he needs to man up instead of being a whiny little pussy. :shocked:
Yeah this is nothing serious either it's like a warm up to the start of the season literally nothing on it but bragging rights really.
I’m currently Vice Captain at the club, but people like this are exactly why I will never take over Captain. There are just too many attitudes like this, and I only stepped into the VC as a goodwill gesture as no one else was willing to do it. I personally want to show up play golf and bugger off 😃
A lost ball is a lost ball. I've lost plenty of balls in plain sight with nobody in the vicinity. It happens, it's stinks, and it's still a penalty. If he didn't want to risk it, he could have chosen a safer option. He also could have hustled over and asked the guys to make sure it was their ball before hitting it (which we all do when we see a bad group heading towards our ball).
That said, if the other guy agreed, it's a done deal. Have some self respect and don't complain the day after.
A lost ball is a lost ball. I've lost plenty of balls in plain sight with nobody in the vicinity. It happens, it's stinks, and it's still a penalty. If he didn't want to risk it, he could have chosen a safer option. He also could have hustled over and asked the guys to make sure it was their ball before hitting it (which we all do when we see a bad group heading towards our
Whilst I agree with you as I lost one the other day in a comp in which I was 100% sure it was safe, it's annoying but it is what it is. The circumstances in this were a little different. It's not official match it's just a small league thing we are doing with a small number of friends.
When the other guys hit the ball we were probably about 130 yards away by the time we realized they were on the green probably about 200 yards away from us. It's just a shitty situation. I had a word with him just now and explained to him he shouldn't of accepted what I proposed if he didn't want to agree with it.
Whilst I agree with you as I lost one the other day in a comp in which I was 100% sure it was safe, it's annoying but it is what it is. The circumstances in this were a little different. It's not official match it's just a small league thing we are doing with a small number of friends. When the other guys hit the ball we were probably about 130 yards away by the time we realize
If the guy is upset enough to complain the next day, it's a real competition that at least one person takes seriously enough to look like a B in front of his friend group. 😃
He's just a weird kind of guy hard to tell when he is joking or when he is being serious. The guy shouldn't even be playing he is just coming back from a slipped disc or something 😃
Agreeing and then complaining the day after losing is completely insane. That guy is a loon.
imagine if we all made decisions with simultaneous realization we had to also live by them and were not able to come back later complaing we were wrong and expect instant change.
It's been hard to get a grasp on the extreme wide-ranging reactions to Mickelson over the years. But it's coming into focus now. There are some great quotes from Shipnuck in the article and recent podcast, including:
* Phil lives on wanting to dazzle everybody in every situation
* He's working 4 sides of the street at all times
* He has to have everybody's admiration
* He's constant angles, trying to get over on everybody, trying to be the smartest person in the room
* He's the ultimate "juice guy"
* His personality is performative at all times
* He's now in a "life own goal situation."
I knew a mother and daughter in Florida, both PhD's in psychology, one who adored him and the other was averse to him. That was a funny situation, and served to further my confusion about him. Myself, I pulled for him. I particularly admired his sportsmanship when it didn't go his way, a hard thing for most of us. I got a little bit of a weird vibe from him, and realized a lot of people were getting a super weird vibe.
Looking back on it all, when he won that tournament as an amateur (which a friend of mine uncannily predicted at the time), he lost all contact with the earth. He went full "I'm Chevy Chase and you're not" mode as his way of being in the world. Descriptions of him as needing to be the center of attention, of loving nothing more than the sound of his own voice, of buttering up everybody and their mother, of needing to be seen as the smartest dude going -- added to his penchant for badgering young players to gamble high in practice rounds when they didn't want to -- all pretty much adds up to the same thing. He's an a$$hole. And worse.
As I love to say about sports at the highest championship levels, it gets Shakespearean. Phil was the brightest mega-star in the making, and loving it, when a guy called Eldrick came along, quite early in Phil's career. Ouch! That's the only frickin' thing that could have trumped him ... and there he was.
Can't wait for the lawsuit and all this gets proven in court.
That or Phil is about to pay some people off bigly.
Phil has always seemed like a dbag to me and a lot of stuff with him has been performative (like were you really going to withdraw if your wife had the baby?)
Almost certainly the whole article is true just because there's no way in hell it's getting greenlit to be posted otherwise.
