2-5: KK on action table
Action table on a Friday night at local casino.. regular straddles, blind bets and the odd out of turn blind raises pre flop
Have played with villain previously, who runs a private home game and is used to playing far higher stakes.. earlier in the night he table changed due to lack of action, and had shown down K2o etc after pre flop raises were all folded around to
Just before this hand, villain lost a $5k pot (three ways) when his turned straight lost to a rivered nut flush.. a few hands before than I won a decent pot with a turned full house
I am the effective stack with about 1600, villain more than covers (over 2500)
$10 straddle is on this hand
Folds to hero in cut off who has KcKh, opens to 40
Button and blinds fold, villain 3 bets to 250, hero calls
Flop: (507) Qh 10h 9h, villain checks, hero checks
Turn: (507) 4h, villain checks, hero checks (at this point it was 3am and I wasn’t sure if I held the Kh, had resolved to check if I faced a bet)
River: (507) 9c, villain bets 250, hero ?
I would 4!. Maybe it has to be a shove. If you shove and take like 300 without show down, that is not such a bad result, but he should call with a real hand, like JJ/AK.
Flop, I might bet with straight draw and 2nd nut flush draw plus overpair and spr of like 2.5.
160BB deep KK is obviously a 4bet. However Villain used a terribly big 3bet size that sets up an SPR of 3. Given that the SPR is so low and we won't have trouble getting the money in, hands like AA and KK can simply flat.
I am not crazy about the flop, because a good chunk of villain's range nutted up.
On the river, I call.
Need to have some jams pre that aren’t AK and given dynamics this is a good spot.
As played river is an easy call.
Really results oriented to say you could have gotten him to fold a set by shoving the turn or whatever. Hero did not know he had a set and had to play against his whole range.
It is possible both players should have bet the flop, but tricky situation with the dripping wet flop.
When he 3! big like that, you probably had a mid pp or big ace. If you shove preflop, he usually calls. He folds any bluff. Hard for him to bet big and then fold a premium hand. Maybe he would have folded TT. It would be much better in terms of expectation if he called with TT, but, as you can see with the results, it isn't terrible if he folds.
Preflop is a dream scenario when teddy kgb pumps it up to be a tough guy and you have the 2nd best hand in holdem.
The river play is like preflop flipped upside down, you don't have anywhere near the 2nd best hand and yet you want to put in more money. Call the $250 is good
So as not to pile on, I thought flop and turn were reasonable whether or not you have the K of hearts.
I don't mind preflop or turn, although both seem like we have a nuts a lot and aren't deep enough to fold.
But flop though ... People not betting KKh on QhTh9h with a 3 SPR ... wtf are you betting?
I could even see checking if we'd 3bet, but as the caller to the 3bet it just seems bad.
In case it wasn’t clear in my original posts - I didn’t know I had the second nut flush on the turn at the time (and didn’t want to check during the hand until there was action)
I ended up flicking in the call and villain had pocket 10s for the full house
Expensive lesson learned, I often get annoyed at small mistakes I make (I never tilt from bad beats / run outs), but this one I’ve been able to take on the chin as a lesson.
My thought process through the hand was:
- happy t
Tough line regardless I'm going with flat. What is he going to call a re-raise with? An Ace most likely correct?! And if he jams your re-raise what are you gonna do fold? Even though you know you can't.
Glad I got to see the spoiler after the fact. ^_^ expensive lesson in greed
