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I'm not a fan of jamming turn. I think we are ahead often enough to call. Don't need to turn a hand this good into a bluff. I also don't trust a fish to fold two pair on the turn at this stack depth.

I'd call at this point getting 3:1.

so here's what i did

i deduce that AK/TT+ is all 3! preflop so he's pretty capped here, at best he's got a set of 5s, maybe K9s, but mostly two pairs and bluffs

i feel like he expects and wants a call here with this sizing and he can't possibly have AK, only I can have that hand the way it was played

so i decided to turn my hand into a bluff - only thing is, i realize i only have about $120 on top so he's getting an absurd price to call

so i'm hating life for not deciding to jam on the turn, when i actually had some fold equity

but if i can just get a small handful of 2 pair to fold then i think it's a better decision than calling given it's just $120 more at risk to steal a pot of 574 post-rake

i definitely feel like i have a strong nut advantage and can rep AK, as I definitely would have played AK this way anyway - i'm just hating that I only have $120 behind, good lesson here to pay more attention to spr as it came at me as a needless surprise to see that i barely had anything left to fire

so after tanking for about 10-15 seconds i announce that i'm all in

villain

You are better off just never trying to bluff unknown fish off 2P+. Bluff when their range is weak, not when it is strong. If you think TPTK is no good on the turn, just fold.

I have a similar hand that I made a thread about a couple years ago where I turned KQ into a bluff on JTXQ7. I raised a donk bet on the turn and jammed the river and got snap-called by Q7o (TPNK that donk/called turn and then called off with 2P on river). One of the most memorable hands I've ever played and not something I would ever try to do again.

I am amazed at GG's ability to read the minds of these villains. I find V's calling AA pf, with a limping villain yet to act, to be impossibly stupid, but that's exactly what this guy did. And GG sussed out.

Judging by the tanking V did on the river raise, maybe a turn jam does get through? I do think though, like Dan said, that it's a bad idea to try on most of our Vs. Even if it might've worked here.

And that's why trying to get reads on these players is a good idea and helps us give advice. We never got any read about how he played those first hands, if he seemed gamble-y or tight, etc. But as I wrote, w/o the read, I was folding the turn.

I actually like the turn jam better than the call.

All due respect to you and GG, we don't need to read minds to get away from our hand given the action here.

Rather than trying to decide whether or not V is bad enough to flat call from the BB with KK/AA, we can just ask if V's actions are consistent with a hand that beats ours, and if V is likely to have those hands in his range.

He doesn't need AA. He can play QT, QJ, or 55 this way, and it makes sense. If we add in some "WTF" factor, we can start giving him over-pairs, AK, Q5/T5, and JJ. And we still lose to all those hands.

I don't know how we decide that V can have AA/KK here, and also decide that he's going to fold AA/KK if we jam turn. It seems inconsistent for V to take a very passive / trappy line pre, and then make a hero fold on the turn.

The flop donk for full pot is a fishy enough play that we can call flop and not be torching EV. Once V barrels for a large size on the turn, turning TPTK into a bluff is almost certainly torching.

I would have raised the 30 to 75
Take back the initiative
When you call it caps your range and allows villain to keep applying pressure

How he responds to your raise should clarify things. I think he folds often

Yeah I figured you were a degenerate low roller like your butt buddy Trooper97
Maybe you too can get a room together and discuss scamming and conning and hopefully “AP Slots and Poker”.
Go Gamble!