Botfarm won $10 Million on WPN

time for joeingram to do another interview with phil...

Where did everyone think those 100k packages to team pros were coming from?

i dont blame the ambassadors, they all trying to get their money , i personally would not go against my morals and beliefs to freeroll a 200k ,but I understand why most would.

We are the idiots that keep feeding them rake , so Nagy having his lifestyle because of players would be ok if he did not also allow such blatant cheating and at least gave us a fair shake. (signed a guy who paid at least 3k in rake in 2023)

Attention kind and learned mods, please take note that my good faith and informative post has been besieged by unwarranted ad-hominem attacks from this forums assorted broke lowlifes, this is normally the part where i smash these plebs into a billion little pieces. but as discussed with the owners of this site i will refrain and let you do your work preserving my discussion points while eliminating this noise. thank you for all that you do good sirs!

where is the regulation? the gray market sites are still getting traffic and ignoring your pleas. everyone who plays there is getting skimmed by bots, rta and super users and the sites will do minimum to nothing to help you. they will pretend and you will accept it. in fact the gray market sites are probably rooting for winning players who are parasites on thier system to FAIL. They aren't mad at the cheats they are mad that they are so sloppy. In the end they will shut down and steal your money as has happened countless times and you will have no recourse. you will come here crying and i will ask again, who cares? I am giving advice to a young poker player, dont go down this path. I have played in super soft safe games and cashed out millions of dollars in casinos around the world. never even a HINT of impropriety (since the poker boom), its a much better way. People are discussing how to not get cheated, i am giving the answer.

and i reiterate:

Yeah, no playing poker - no getting cheat, no having a wife - no getting cheat, no having friends - no fight with a friend, no life - no death.

Regulation - is open information space, where everyone can get opinion, summary, reviews about everything. Poker sites who behave bad - reduce their traffic, Poker sites who behave good - traffic will increase.

Right now we got situation where regulators banned legal gaming in half of the world, they created problem of unmet need that black market platforms thrive on. Thanks to legal regulators we met a problems we met now. Im need buisness run by good will owner, who hire the team of professional who cares about their own product. We had such an owner - Isai Scheinberg. Do you know what legal regulators made with Isai Scheinberg? They forced the company to be sold to a random person who took a loan from funds that print fiat money. Legal regulators destroy our industry.

There is nothing wrong with gray market sites compared to regulated sites - provided the sites are taking equal security measures, paying out, and not being total pieces of **** like Full Tilt or Lock Poker etc. ... ACR obviously has some security issues going on and has had for some time, but they've always paid out. Despite the issues, I've managed to win money there. I'd argue a big reason regulated sites aren't experiencing the same kinds of troubles is mostly due to ring fencing ... as we have seen most of the bot operations are based out of a certain part of the world that can't access ring fenced sites (at least as far as anyone seems to know ...)

Honestly, from the outside there is no way to tell exactly how seriously ACR takes these incidents or what if anything they're doing about it. Investigating something like this certainly takes a lot of resources and expertise - except in cases that are totally obvious. I do think it's clear they don't take it seriously enough, especially after removing country names.

A lot of players want or "need" to play online for various reasons. Quotes around need, because I understand pros can get a different job. Government policies generally seem to be getting stricter around the world over time - and in areas with regulation, like the USA, it has been going very slowly. It's been over a decade now since Nevada regulated online poker and we still only a have a handful of states with online poker. That is ridiculous.

Underground live games seem like a good comparison but really aren't ... they are on a much smaller scale than ACR which can be accessed almost anywhere in the world & who have a reputation to maintain.

Im missing the destruction personally. Ya it did suck when party shut down, i was printing money, oh well. ya it did suck when stars and tilt held my funds and i sold all my tilt balance at 80c on the dollar, oh well. this was the world i chose to operate in. democratic countries have laws, those laws are by and for the people. theres no such thing as a random rogue "regulator". these regulators represent the people and regulations can be changed, they change every day. if i choose to operate outside the laws of the country i live in or do business with someone who operates outside the laws of countries they are in I take my chances. im not sure why anyone would care. If you told me you were lobbying your democratically elected representatives for change or running for office with a platform of that change i would care about that.

tilt and lock were good until they were bad. this is the way it always goes. who is still surprised by this???

That is true that any unregulated site could go tits up at any moment ... however, it does seem less likely given how long ACR has been around now, and that they've been consistent with fast crypto payouts.

The Lock Poker incident happened over a much shorter timespan than ACR has been around. Same with Full Flush (even shorter IIRC). Full Tilt was around the longest before they had issues but still less than ACR has been around.

I posted this question couple of times on X Under AcrPoker n Wpn_ceo posts but never got any responses

Can anyone explain me the reason why ACR masked Players location ?

oh really? who are the people accept UIGEA? is this law by and for the people? did someone vote for that law?

For real. We vote for politicians, and often times even the people we vote for enact laws we don’t agree with - sometimes they enact laws that would have changed how we voted, had we known this information ahead of time.

Laws would be much different around the world if each individual law was voted on by the people.

A lot of the laws enacted are also enacted in bipartisan agreements - so you really have no say in the matter.

I was directed to this thread from the players in my stable as I’m considering removing ACR from our players and all of the good information stopped when you decided that you needed attention. Can you please quit derailing this thread, please?

Anyone has the list of names in an excel or something where we are able to use a search function?

The law is accepted by the people’s representatives and if they defy their constituents they are voted out. It happens every Election Day. It seems the people were fine with the uiega which I disagree with but I’m not naive or childish enough to say things should go my way or they are rigged. I made 7 figs at party. I wish it continued but there is a counter argument as to what good I was doing for my fellow Americans crushing people on an offshore gambling site. In the end it’s pretty obvious my side of the argument is winning out but it doesn’t happen instantly and I don’t sit and cry about it. I move forward.

Good for you! And we remained here, in an poker industry destroyed by governments, where the conditions for running a successful business were shutted down, people who cared about the industry received criminal cases, previously successful platforms are getting more and more closed regions, and players who want to play choose between club applications, mafia and bots environment.

On ignition I notice in a lot of MTTS that have the super late re-entry period, we'll be about to enter the money before the tourney is even done regging, and then in the last literal milisecond, there will be over 100 new entries and the field will be 100+ away from the money, and there will be like over 100 new entries with under 4 bbs and they all max tank every hand to get into the money. I noticed this months ago, and idk if its still going on but i would imagine that it is a bot ring or multiple bot rings / farms.

edit: i remember hearing about the same thing on GG with the last minute regging and all getting put at the same table and max tanking into the money, i heard this was a reason they discontinued shark scope tracking

Quick question, How easy/hard would it be for you to find/spot bots on ignition, due to the fact it's anon etc? What sort of raw data would someone need to be able to make similar conclusions?

Governments don’t shut down industries. The people do. The people are the government. You may not agree with the majority of the people or their elected representatives and you can work for change but to blame your problems in a nefarious shadowy “government” not connected to your fellow countrymen shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how the system works.

Stick to your thread Oregon state grad, and try running your drunk mid-day ramblings through a grammar checker

I understand exactly how the system works: one half of the people called officials parasitize on the other half who work, robbing them of taxes. Once you get into the system, it is impossible to jump out of it, it’s like drugs: a drug addict cannot control his appetites, and a tax addict cannot control his appetites. In an attempt to collect more budgets, they promise a better life by regulating more idustries, but in fact destroy them with their incompetence.

So you can't see that 6 of the 8 other players at your full ring table are from Belarus

I suggest a civics class. Nothing you said was remotely true or backed up by any facts. I think you would find a civics class interesting and would find new appreciation for a government by and for the people which has created the greatest accomplishments and living standards the human race has ever seen.

LMAO, nice troll up to this point you make it believable.