200$ live, fold top pair?
9-max 200$ live MTT
100 entrants, 35 remaining, 11 places itm
Blinds: 2k/4k
Hero (BTN) : 110k
HJ: 250k
HJ opens to 12k, CO fold, Hero (BTN) calls with KQs, both blinds fold.
Flop: Q55 (pot 34k)
HJ bets 20k, Hero calls
Turn: Q55T (pot 74k)
HJ checks, Hero bets 25k, HJ goes all-in, Hero??
*Q and T are spades bringing some posible flushdraws as well.
What should hero do here?
HJ is a senior guy, quite tight.
Hero has 53k left, 13bbs, soon to be less as next blind level was in 10min.
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Does villain always open 3x in this stage of the tournament?
I dont understand why he bets so big Q55.
I could fold against absolute nits. But we are only beat vs KK, AA, AQ... We chop vs KQo. He could have some JJ, but also some TT... well what bluffs idk, maybe some AKs/AJs turning multidraw? Im not sure about this spot.
If I think villain could misplay JJ like this etc, then I could find a call.
Depends on villains earlier play, also livereads, does he have a wife waiting for him and is going for redwine and steak at the nearby bistro if busto?
:p
Does villain always open 3x in this stage of the tournament?
I dont understand why he bets so big Q55.
I could fold against absolute nits. But we are only beat vs KK, AA, AQ... We chop vs KQo. He could have some JJ, but also some TT... well what bluffs idk, maybe some AKs/AJs turning multidraw? Im not sure about this spot.
If I think villain could misplay JJ like this etc, then I could find a call.
Depends on villains earlier play, also livereads, does he have a wife waiting for him and is going for
No, I've seen him open limp one hand but he was on the table only for a dozen hands or so. He is probably 80ish so probably leaning towards the absolute nit profile.
I estimated his range with AT+, KJ+, QJ+, 88+....
Because of this ruled out 3betting, also considering I probably have an edge postflop and could steal some pots against him in position.
Otf, even with his size (3/4) thought he could be over c-betting with some hands like AK, AT, AJ. So it's probably either (AQ, KQ, QJ, AA, KK,QQ) or AK,AT,AJ... Not sure if he could play TT or JJ like that. Also ruling out the possibility that he has a 5 played this way.
On the turn, after his check I'm thinking that I'm ahead so bet 1/3 to get value of some AT or some JJ,TT, QJ. No reason to bet more imo, also giving some space to maneauver a fold.
Was def not expecting that check-raise. So that's probably (AQ, QQ, KQ, QJ and maybe some QT, JJ, TT, T9s, KJs..) I think AA, KK will put me all-in right away, fearing that I check behind on that slightly opening turn.
If I had 90k left I would have folded, but having 10bbs and due to the structure ended up calling after a bit of a tank. Will not spoil the hand yet
80 year old nit raises pre, CBs on a Qxx flop, then x/shoves a T turn. You can't fold quickly enough man.
Jam pre please. Folding post here with tpgk is really bad on 27.5bb. I would just stick it in pre.
9-max 200$ live MTT
100 entrants, 35 remaining, 11 places itm
Blinds: 2k/4k
Hero (BTN) : 110k
HJ: 250k
HJ opens to 12k, CO fold, Hero (BTN) calls with KQs, both blinds fold.
Flop: Q55 (pot 34k)
HJ bets 20k, Hero calls
Turn: Q55T (pot 74k)
HJ checks, Hero bets 25k, HJ goes all-in, Hero??
*Q and T are spades bringing some posible flushdraws as well.
What should hero do here?
HJ is a senior guy, quite tight.
Hero has 53k left, 13bbs, soon to be less as next blind level was in 10min.
think we can bet a smidge smaller on turn, snap fold to the jam by villain profile. Only thing he has here is KK/AA. small chance a set of 10s as well. They usually show the hand after you fold as well to show how bad they played it, lol.
Fold - imo way too under bluffed, its not like you never have a strong enough hand here to snap him off when he tries to take this line as an exploit (assuming you balance at the appropriate freq).
Should we really be betting turn here?
We get called (or raised) by all the hands that beat us. Which is a big part of his range.
Checking back means we have a pot sized bet left which we can utilise if he checks river. That might get some hands that are beating us to fold, and might get some hands we beat to call.
We can also check back river if given the choice and preserve more of our stack at the small risk of leaving some value behind.
Yea when I look at it, 27.5bb jam is bad. Think 20-22bb is a good spot to jam. Idk not a fan of just flatting pre. Maybe 3! Small with intentions to fold to a jam or 4! Is ok here. Flat is ok also but I’m not a huge fan bc we invite the blinds to come along.
Jamming 27.5bb is kinda a punt if we run into AK or AQ / AJ. Super tight player, I might just 3! Small to get info and fold to a 4!. Maybe 3! To 28-35k and fold to jam. Idk this spot is odd bc stacks are shallow on our end. I think if it goes 3! And flat, we kinda gotta stack off on stated flop with tpgk due to spr. It’s prolly a cooler a lot here
I think flatting pre is great here. 3-betting folds out the hands we dominate and leaves in the hands that dominate us. And we have the button, so we should be more willing to play postflop. 3-bet / folding just seems like a waste of a good hand in the best position.
I would call pre-flop as well. We can't jam in position with 27 bb's. I rarely 3-bet with KQs because I hate folding to the 4 bet jam which I would do here.
Flop call is standard.
We can check back the turn but it gives us a chance to lose on the river if Villain would fold to a bet with hands like AK. It also means we have to call a river jam because we under-repped our hand and Villain can now bluff with AK or jam with JJ thinking we have a smaller PP.
As played I guess I would fold but it is going to be tough to cash. I just don't see many bluffs for Villain here. AJs/KJs/J9s with a flush draw and maybe KJ no flush draw but I'm not sure Villain is even opening with some of those hands. Whereas there are a bunch of combos of AA/KK/QQ/TT/AQ which we will lose to.
Thank you everyone for the input. Will be posting another hand later.
Ended up calling, Villain had AQo. In that moment, I thought we could chop or he could even have some combos of QJ, but not sure what the frequency would be for that.
Don't think checking turn is an option here, as we let him realise with hands like AJ, AK, and as already mentioned we are under-repping our hand making it a harder decision on the river... If something, as @dachalup says, bet a bit smaller on the turn.
Now, I def should have folded even if my remaining stack was 10-13bbs. 90% of the time we are beat (close to zero) by an 80 year old nit in that spot, if other player we can call it a cooler probably.
Nice hand.