4bet pot on the turn

4bet pot on the turn

BTN is unknown, this is fast fold and I witnessed none of the 26 hands the tracker recorded and indicates in the stats.

€0.10 NL FAST (6 max)

BTN: 293.7 BB (VPIP: 8.00, PFR: 4.00, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 26)
SB: 109.2 BB
BB: 101 BB
UTG: 164 BB
MP: 122 BB
Hero (CO): 112.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, BTN raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 23 BB, BTN calls 14 BB

Flop: (47.5 BB, 2 players) 6 3 6
Hero bets 22.6 BB, BTN calls 22.6 BB

Turn: (92.7 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero ?

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26 December 2024 at 11:32 PM
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I don't think this is a good hand to 4! with. Stronger hands or bluffs. In general, I would go bigger with 4!s OOP, particularly at these stakes.


On flop I would bet 12.5 BB at most and on turn I would bet again to charge KdQd, AdQd, and Ad, Kd

I would check any river except the jack


by Bassel k

on turn I would bet again to charge KdQd, AdQd, and Ad, Kd

Turn: (92.7 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 20 BB, BTN raises to 173.7 BB, Hero ?


by Bassel k

on turn I would bet again to charge KdQd, AdQd, and Ad, Kd

Don't understand this. Turn seems like a check to me


by Bassel k

On flop I would bet 12.5 BB at most and on turn I would bet again to charge KdQd, AdQd, and Ad, Kd

I would check any river except the jack

Since with the Q turn we are behind two out of the three hands you list I do not see how we are "charging" them.


I like the 4-bet pre, CO vs BTN this seems close to mandatory 4-bet until you have enough stats on villain to deviate.

would bet much smaller on flop as bassel suggested ,anything up to 1/3 pot is probably ok.

As played I would check the turn, no value to be had unless you go something ridiculously small that would just be raised by villain anyway


Just jam turn.


Bet smaller flop , and obv jam turn.


I would just fold. It smells fishy but it doesn't seem like there are many flush draws out there in a 4-bet pot. And you have the J which makes bluff catching even worse. So you're hoping he has like TT/AK making a superhero play, reading into your small bet-sizing. I guess it's a slow-played AA/KK or the occasional QQ/AQ.

Also curious why people say jam turn? Makes no sense to me. I could get behind a call with reads but I doubt it's winning vs most.


by haha_TP k

Also curious why people say jam turn? Makes no sense to me. I could get behind a call with reads but I doubt it's winning vs most.

I guess because SPR is low you should in theory shove wider, but to me I prefer to check.


Thanks for the answers everyone.

The solver indeed jams turn as suggested by Hz93, balancing with AK to make opponent's pocket pairs indifferent.

€0.10 NL FAST (6 max)

BTN: 293.7 BB
SB: 109.2 BB
BB: 101 BB
UTG: 164 BB
MP: 122 BB
Hero (CO): 112.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, BTN raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 23 BB, BTN calls 14 BB

Flop: (47.5 BB, 2 players) 6 3 6
Hero bets 22.6 BB, BTN calls 22.6 BB

Turn: (92.7 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 20 BB, BTN raises to 173.7 BB, Hero calls 47.1 BB and is all-in

River: (226.9 BB, 2 players) 4

Hero shows J J (Two Pair, Jacks and Sixes)
BTN shows 9 9 (Two Pair, Nines and Sixes)
Hero wins 215.6 BB


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