My results of grinding 2NL 5NL 10NL 25NL 50NL 100NL

My results of grinding 2NL 5NL 10NL 25NL 50NL 100NL

Hello everyone, I want to share with you my 20 days result with 50$ deposit on GGpoker

2NL was awful, after like 15k hand

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11 September 2023 at 12:13 PM
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by BigBananas k

Theyre both std. Small errors in some sizes but w.e the lines are fine.


you like hands like this


Two unpleasant folds today, what do you think?




After losing with KK i make 2 bad calls soon after, i mean... they donk like that and im the fish paying them off, jeez this kind of hands are what really matters for the winrate





This is what real fish looks like, not like other fake fishes GG has



Todays session, i think NL25 incoming soon



idk why everytime i start playing NL25 i have to make tough decisions all the time, i now must be playing NL50 instead but i have to move down to NL10 again

2 hands vs same villain, first i think he had it, i think that spot is underbluffed, second hand i just probably made a bad call based on intuition and previous interaction with the villain



because of hands like this my redline suffers and graph sucks


ok i guess hello NL10 again damn


Yea bro thats the reason. Gotta move down coz u get more coolers than other players.

Nothing to do with turn mergeraises and donkbets. Lmao.


by blazar k

first i think he had it

Imo showing 1 card is 100% value unless that's literally impossible


yea anyway i understood what is the most important thing to beat micros

i think its more important to make good folds than to get value itself, well both almost equally important but making good folds thats what matters in the end

when they bet big or raise almost every time they have a hand


Today i haven’t played a single hand, i was just thinking and EUREKA!

I realized how important is to play deep stacked to reduce variance and how crucial is bankroll management when shot taking

I heard some players say they like zoom because when they get deep they just close tables and start with 100BB again they think this is the safe way, well i was doing the same

Actually everything is quite opposite, playing deep stacked generates higher winrates and by default higher winrate means lower variance, also we play more solid and careful, we may not stack off with single top pair

I think it’s important to always strive for deep stacked play, it’s possible even in zoom, i can just dont close tables, sit out and leave like that, take a break and continue after

Now i understand more and more why for example top players like Linus plays always deep stacked lately, it has a good reason

Also i was shot taking with 10BI because i was thinking having an edge is enough but actually even if we have an edge variance still exists and everytime we get hit and move down we have to grind way longer

If we constantly try to move up lets say with aggressive bankroll management all it takes one little prolonged variance hit to throw us to the bottom again and it starts to become never ending cycle

Why casinos never go broke? Because they have unlimited bankroll which is first or second most important part of their success


by blazar k

Why casinos never go broke? Because they have unlimited bankroll which is first or second most important part of their success

Pretty sure the most important part of their success is that they get people to sit and play -EV games!

Deep stack has its merits, but can you handle losing 300bb on a cooler / suck out? From both a mental and bankroll perspective?


by Masq k

Pretty sure the most important part of their success is that they get people to sit and play -EV games!

Deep stack has its merits, but can you handle losing 300bb on a cooler / suck out? From both a mental and bankroll perspective?

I understand playing deep is a bit scary but we need to be well rolled for it and mentally prepared to benefit fully, i was playing 9max deep before zoom so im used to it




I think he had it, every time i had similar scenario vs a reg and i called, how many times i was ahead? i think statistics show close to 0 so i had to make this exploitative fold

My plan was to check the river, i could check the turn but i would give him a free card that way



Which part of the hand do you feel you played well? (AQ / AK hand)


by Masq k

Which part of the hand do you feel you played well? (AQ / AK hand)

I think i couldn't have played that hand any better, i was on a nut flush draw so i wasn't afraid of anything, i bet small 2 streets and checked the river because of A, if i bet the river no hand would call me there except A and A wouldn't raise my bet he would just call so i wouldn't get max value, i checked because i wanted villain to bet his A or bluff his other hands


I need a suggestion how to play this kind of hands deep OOP, i tried everything to control the pot, checked the flop, block bet the river but villain goes crazy all the way and i don't want to invest more than 100BB so i fold


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your hand is very strong so I'm not sure why your focused on controlling the pot.


by wereallgonnamakeit k

your hand is very strong so I'm not sure why your focused on controlling the pot.

We’re 220BB deep SPR on flop is almost 10, QQ is not a hand to stack off here, maybe AA but even with AA i really don’t want to stack off here


you’re not going to win playing so nitty


The pool is nitty and they get nittier when they’re deep, you guys don’t understand from 10 stack offs like this i will only win like maybe 2 if im lucky


re. QQ: are you guys even reading the HH? a coach, huh? this is one of the few hands he didn't play too nitty. If you think this is a good spot on the flop 200b deep just because we are ahead of a lot of their range, I don't know what to say. And the river donkbet isn't nitty...

AK turn fold hand the turn line seems disastrous. the huge sizing, especially if we don't want to call a jam, and then the question of why to fold - turn checkjam there doesn't make much sense and we block KJ and A4. on the other hand, they probably just have it all the same, i guess?

AQ hand I doubt the mini sizings are solver-approved max EV, and if we're putting so little into the pot then why not just check flop to let zeroEQ hands stab and underrep our hand. Preflop I guess is a mix or zero 4bet, riverplay very dubious, depending on opponent type. wonder whether PPs bluff IP vs this line. other than that what are the bluffs? intuition says we should blockbet again on river, and maybe they'll even jam AK, but bet bigger than flop/turn because we do actually want chips.


by Keruli k

re. QQ: are you guys even reading the HH? a coach, huh? this is one of the few hands he didn't play too nitty. If you think this is a good spot on the flop 200b deep just because we are ahead of a lot of their range, I don't know what to say. And the river donkbet isn't nitty...

AK turn fold hand the turn line seems disastrous. the huge sizing, especially if we don't want to call a jam, and then the question of why to fold - turn checkjam there doesn't make much sense and we block KJ and A4. on t

Yea just people totally get lost when it comes to deep stack play, even KK can be folded pre vs right villain 200BB deep, its so different than 100bb strategy

AK hand i use huge sizing because i want to prevent villain from bluff-rising, if he calls im just checking the river but maybe big sizing wasn’t optimal because i induce flush draws and maybe KQ type of hands to jam, i should have checked the turn but as turn fold itself i dont think its -EV considering pool, they rarely raise allin with single pair especially regs and i had notes on that player every time he raised he had a strong hand

AQ hand idk how would solver play but its interesting


Anyway i believe every big decision we make first and most important thing to consider should be who we’re playing against, if we want to make accurate decisions we can’t generalize and apply to everything what solver would do

Me myself i like generalizing because its easy but i understand play the player approach can be the most accurate

Micro pool is so big we don’t get to play same players often especially in zoom but most of them are like same category when they bet big or raise they almost always have something better than single pair

You guys may disagree but to beat micros convincingly most challenging part is folding, yes folding is the key, most value we get in micros comes from folding

Imagine player base who often not pays us off when they should, our value hands are wasted more often than it should, they wait for good hands and only then they are starting to bet big, if we start to pay them off, imagine we’re not getting enough values from them + paying them off its disastrous

This is why micros need different approach and its never wrong to make decisions on a nittier side unless we are against a fish or have notes on a reg who’s have been noticed to be spewy


by Keruli k

If you think this is a good spot on the flop 200b deep just because we are ahead of a lot of their range, I don't know what to say.

This is how poker works... by definition it is an extremely high EV spot with QQ on the flop here. Your goal should not be trying to "control the pot" when you haven't even filtered your opponents range at all except for preflop. It's an extremely reductionist way of thinking. If OP said ok he randomized to check QQ here 30% of the time or something, sure, that's fine I guess, but trying to control the pot when your hand is such a high EV bet otf makes no sense.

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