My results of grinding 2NL 5NL 10NL 25NL 50NL 100NL

My results of grinding 2NL 5NL 10NL 25NL 50NL 100NL

Hello everyone, I want to share with you my 20 days result with 50$ deposit on GGpoker

2NL was awful, after like 15k hands finally adapted to their gameplay and started winning, at that time my table got badbeat jackpot, my share was 200$ so it was enough to say f*ck this little guys i want to move up


At 5NL I played only about 2.8k hands, started to adapt and win, said to myself why not to move to 10NL straight away since i got bankroll for it thanks to badbeat jackpot share which i got from 2NL hehe


10NL played only like 1.2k hands i thought i was crushing it so why not to move right away to 25NL


At 25NL things got a bit tricky, i remembered 2NL where i struggled a bit, so it took me some hands to adapt to them, then i was feeling invincible, like impossible to lose so i thought its time to take shots at 50NL


50NL wasn't fun journey tho, this is where i played most of my hands, like 28k+ i expected to crush it but i was struggling a bit, still i was winning, also i got another jackpot share of 900$ since i was playing always 9 tables at same time, cash drops, leaderboard prizes, GG care and so on, so why not to move 100NL since my bankroll allowed me


Here I'm at 100NL, 7k hands, first thoughts were that game is super easy but i struggled to adapt to these players since they play super crazy vs me, they often call my 4BET shoves with 99 or small pair, this is crazy how they just throw chips to gift me but i cant receive since i have worse hand so end up losing lol every time i'm expecting them to fold they call me down with trash hands which are better then mine lol i never experienced such in lower stakes so far, now i'm starting to adapt and win


Gonna continue playing 100NL and see what happens

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I was silent here because i went through horrible run and depression, long story short: started playing poker with 50$ deposit, beat 2NL and gradually increased limits, at peak i had 2800$ bankroll and i was playing 100NL, it happened like short 20 day period so i thought i was crushing it but seems like i wasn't consistent with my gameplay and started losing and losing, i was gradually decreasing limits and was trying to fix leaks in my game but nothing was helping, i was so horrible that in one point my bankroll went back to 100$ from 2800$ peak

Good thing is that even tho my roll was down to 100$ i never made new deposit again to play higher limits, i started from lowest limit again NL2, NL5 and as my roll increased now last 7 days played NL10 20k hands and took some shots at 25NL my rolls is at 500$ now and aiming to play 25NL than 50NL and will be back to 100NL hopefully soon



gl


by secretguy k

gl

Thanks

Took a shot at NL25 with 500$ bankroll, it was successful, played 4,5k hands and now my balance shows 800$, idk how much rake GG takes but it's insane amount, watching their graph i feel like i should have more money on my balance, maybe i should consider in the future to get holdem manager or poker tracker for more accurate graphs, i will keep playing on NL25 until 1,2k$ roll and then i will take shot at NL50



You can use hand2note for free to get more accurate results.


by ImePaskaa k

You can use hand2note for free to get more accurate results.

I will try, is it legal to use for ggpoker? i know they don't allow HUDs but can i only import hand histories and see accurate graph without breaking their rules?


by blazar k

but can i only import hand histories and see accurate graph without breaking their rules?

yes.

also, here

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/301/h...


Played another 3k hands on 25NL, terrible run but managed to recover at the end, bankroll is now 760$


I had downswing mainly because i don't follow patterns that i know is right, on these stakes, regs are too nitty, i need to fold QQ/AK preflop when they 4bet this way i will exploit their nitty tendencies that they 4bet only with AA/KK 95% of cases, also i can consider folding even AA/KK posflop if i face a raise from tight reg or just call one time and see if he second barrels big most likely he flopped a set

I think i know how to crush micro stakes, there are 3 most important things to be consistent with:

#1 and most important is Folding, yes i need to be able fold big hands, a lot of money can be made just by folding, on micro stakes people don't bluff, if they make a move most likely they have it

#2 is value betting, on every turn i need right size of bets to make them pay but size must be optimal also not to give them free cards to draw

#3 is table selection, i need to select tables with at least one fish, well i play 9max deep stack ante games so i can find 2 fishes in one table with higher than 40-50% VPIP if im lucky


Finished 12 day mission on GG, there will be 2m guaranteed flipouts tomorrow, hopefully to get share of it to add some bucks to my bankroll



Just downloaded Poker Tracker, using trial version, imported hands from NL10


Rake is just insane, maybe because i 3bet a lot and they rake preflop 3bets, look at this:


19,694 hands and rake 385.15$

does this mean rake was 19.55BB per 100 hand? LOL


Gl in grind!


Yeah if you are 3bet happy guy you pay a ton of rake. And if you happen to play 30bb+ pots then you pay even more. Oh those were ante games. Makes more sense now.


by DeeKayBee k

Gl in grind!

Thanks buddy

by ImePaskaa k

Yeah if you are 3bet happy guy you pay a ton of rake. And if you happen to play 30bb+ pots then you pay even more. Oh those were ante games. Makes more sense now.

Yes i play 9 max ante games, playing deep 200bb+, most of the time i 3bet since i found out by just calling i invite more people in the pot and gives me less chance to win, most of my pots are 30bb+ and i have stupidly high 3bet% as high as PFR

My fixed rakeback is 35% so if they take rake 19.55BB per 100 hands they should give me back like 6.5BB but i think it's not even close feels more like I'm getting back 2-3bb but if i place on daily leaderboards and get some cashdrops on the table, register to daily 100,000$ flipouts and maybe once in a blue moon win BBJ i think all combined can give me +8-12bb per 100 hands


Imported NL25 hands also, not the best run but clearly gives me a clue about the rake, hands played 16,749 rake 693,20$ this means rake was
16.55bb per 100 hands, lower than 10NL


Overall NL25 run wasn't that bad, just in last session i had really bad luck and tilted a bit too



Blundered few 200BB stack, two times i got raised on low flop, i had overpair, ofc every time they raised they had flopped a set like always nitty regs never raise without a set, i couldnt fold but i knew they had a set, still working on this, next time maybe i will fold.

Folded QQ preflop when tight reg 4bet, hard life on micro stakes dealing with all these nits, also lost another 200BB stack KK vs AA preflop all in but since they are so passive and nitty i fixed my red lane, played some NL10 and NL25 around 3,5kish hands in the end i was crushing it thanks to their nitty tendencies i was fully exploiting it and my red lane skyrocketed

bankroll is 904$ now






Playing 25NL session right now, got dealt JJ vs a fish who had 99, low flop he had less than 100BB stack so when he bet i put him all in, by the river somehow he made a straight so that tilted me a bit because i wanted good start and very next hand i got dealt JJ again on same table someone 3bet and i out of tilt called down his bets till the river even tho Q was present on the board he showed AA, lost like -150BB, things like this always makes me wonder online poker is rigged or not, how is that possible two hands in a row JJ after first got me tilted and someone gets AA...

On the same time, second table a 70VPIP fish was raising 20BB every hand so i got dealt QQ, went all in 200BB stack and another reg snap called he had AA, blundered this a little bit out of tilt, i should have raised 50BB and fold on his shove but since fish was raising every hand i thought no one would have AA in that particular situation so unlucky, thats another -200BB that tilted me even more, that fish kept raising 20BB, few hands later i got dealt AKs and shoved on that fish raise and unlucky again that fish showed KK that lost me 200BB stack again

Still playing this crazy session, tilt gone a bit, won some big pots too, hopefully i will recover, will post results after the session.
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Crazy session indeed recovered, bankroll is now 894$



Here i show you 2 hands vs same opponent, both time i play with 77, in first situation i bluff shoved river, villain tanked and last seconds he called and showed AQ, board is super scary usually they fold A here

GG Poker - $0.25 Ante $0.1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 200 BB
MP: 176.72 BB
MP+1: 210.8 BB
MP+2: 206.24 BB
CO: 200 BB
BTN: 147.68 BB
SB: 200 BB
Hero (BB): 200 BB
UTG: 218.6 BB

9 players post ante of 0.4 BB, SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 5 BB) Hero has 7 7

fold, fold, MP raises to 3.52 BB, fold, MP+2 raises to 11.48 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 10.48 BB, MP calls 7.96 BB

Flop: (38.44 BB, 3 players) 3 2 A
Hero checks, MP checks, MP+2 bets 12.72 BB, Hero raises to 25.44 BB, fold, MP+2 calls 12.72 BB

Turn: (89.32 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 36 BB, MP+2 calls 36 BB

River: (161.32 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 126.68 BB and is all-in, MP+2 calls 126.68 BB

Hero shows 7 7 (Two Pair, Tens and Sevens)
(Pre 55%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
MP+2 shows A Q (Two Pair, Aces and Tens)
(Pre 45%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
MP+2 wins 403.88 BB

On second hand vs same villain i made trips and shoved the river same way, villain thought i was bluffing again and he snap called and showed AJ which was no good ofc

GG Poker - $0.25 Ante $0.1 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 197.8 BB
MP: 196.6 BB
MP+1: 195.08 BB
CO: 428.52 BB
BTN: 200 BB
SB: 218.48 BB
Hero (BB): 198.12 BB
UTG: 48.92 BB

8 players post ante of 0.4 BB, SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 4.6 BB) Hero has 7 7

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, MP raises to 3.2 BB, fold, CO calls 3.2 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 13.4 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 10.2 BB

Flop: (34.6 BB, 2 players) 3 J 7
Hero bets 14 BB, CO calls 14 BB

Turn: (62.6 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 37.6 BB, CO calls 37.6 BB

River: (137.8 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero bets 132.72 BB and is all-in, CO calls 132.72 BB

Hero shows 7 7 (Three of a Kind, Sevens)
(Pre 55%, Flop 95%, Turn 100%)
CO shows A J (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 45%, Flop 5%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 392.44 BB


First hand you don't rep anything outside of AK that beats AQ. Board is not superscarey because you don't coldcall 22 33 (I hope) here. That is pretty punt but it payed of and you have the same ammount of money again.


by ImePaskaa k

First hand you don't rep anything outside of AK that beats AQ. Board is not superscarey because you don't coldcall 22 33 (I hope) here. That is pretty punt but it payed of and you have the same ammount of money again.

It's deep stack ante games so MP1 open raises, MP2 3bets, i know MP1 will call too if i call so i would get amazing odds to call with any pair here or maybe suited connectors since i know if i hit something i may win big 200BB+ pot, calling 10BB here from BB position can be 22 or 33, on flop there are 2 players and my raise should have some strength i may represent a set or flush draw, by the river i can have a flush or full house and if we consider its 25NL most regs know when they face this similar situation from 9 times out of 10 they will make losing call here, if this was like high stakes maybe call would be right but idk he really made losing call in NL25 where all other regs will have something that beats his AQ for sure


Accidently took a shot at NL50, seriously i thought i register myself to 25NL tables and also when table opens money is shown always in BB i play like that so i didnt even saw how much $ i had on the table, just played as i play normally NL25

200 hands +300$, bankroll is now 1259$

look at the redlane, those nits made me a monster, like vampires never see a sunlight they will never see a showdowns haha



Played another 500 hand of NL50, that was little scary at start, i lost 200BB stack two times with same player, once he called my 23BB 3bet with JQ and he made straight, second time with same player i had KK and he had AA almost smashed the keyboard lol but in the end managed to come back



Crazy crazy NL50 session, at start i lost like 300$ because 50NL regs call down my bluffs unlike 25NL regs, here is the example

GG Poker - $0.50 Ante $0.25 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 353.76 BB
BTN: 238.86 BB
SB: 180 BB
Hero (BB): 175 BB
UTG: 227.58 BB
MP: 629.72 BB

6 players post ante of 0.5 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 4.5 BB) Hero has K A

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 9.26 BB, fold, Hero raises to 15.52 BB, UTG calls 12.52 BB, BTN calls 6.26 BB

Flop: (50.06 BB, 3 players) 6 3 5
Hero bets 20.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 20.5 BB

Turn: (91.06 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (91.06 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero bets 138.48 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 138.48 BB

Hero shows K A (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 43%, Flop 26%, Turn 14%)
BTN shows T T (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 57%, Flop 74%, Turn 86%)
BTN wins 359.22 BB

I marked down regs who call down my bluffs and they thought i would bluff them again but usually taking big values from them by exploiting their tendencies, here is the example with the same reg, even tho board had double pairs 33 and JJ reg didn't believe i was strong

GG Poker - $0.50 Ante $0.25 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 398.36 BB
Hero (MP+1): 250.86 BB
CO: 146.28 BB
BTN: 287.66 BB
SB: 204 BB
BB: 200 BB
UTG: 45.5 BB
UTG+1: 264.62 BB

8 players post ante of 0.5 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 5.5 BB) Hero has 3 4

fold, UTG+1 raises to 7.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 7.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (20.5 BB, 2 players) 3 T 3
UTG+1 bets 14.16 BB, Hero calls 14.16 BB

Turn: (48.82 BB, 2 players) J
UTG+1 bets 33.7 BB, Hero calls 33.7 BB

River: (116.22 BB, 2 players) J
UTG+1 bets 116.22 BB, Hero raises to 195 BB and is all-in, UTG+1 calls 78.78 BB

Hero shows 3 4 (Full House, Threes full of Jacks)
(Pre 21%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
UTG+1 shows K K (Two Pair, Kings and Jacks)
(Pre 79%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 497.42 BB

Some bluffs go through with some other regs

GG Poker - $0.50 Ante $0.25 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 591.46 BB
SB: 272.1 BB
Hero (BB): 702.88 BB
UTG: 175.86 BB
UTG+1: 120.98 BB
MP: 55.46 BB
MP+1: 445.4 BB
MP+2: 204.98 BB
CO: 282.2 BB

9 players post ante of 0.5 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 6 BB) Hero has A T

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 3.6 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 3.6 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.6 BB

Flop: (15.8 BB, 3 players) 9 9 J
Hero checks, MP+1 checks, BTN bets 7.9 BB, Hero raises to 15.8 BB, fold, BTN calls 7.9 BB

Turn: (47.4 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero bets 19 BB, BTN calls 19 BB

River: (85.4 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 171 BB, fold

Hero wins 80.38 BB


Epic come back, bankroll is now 1400$



Now about the rake again, look, GG took 145.38$ rake from 1427 hands which is 0.1$ per hand, which is 10.18$ per 100 hand which is 20.37BB per 100 hand

Seems like i ended up session with 34BB/100 winner but they took 20 so i left with 14BB/100, how can i breathe?

I got 31.45$ rakeback from that session which is 21.6% of 145.38$, My rank on GG is Platinum Octopus rakeback should be 35% but i get 21.6%


So lets continue math how much BB/100 i will get from rakeback, 31.45$ rakeback from 1427 hands is 0.022$ per hands, which is 2.2 per 100 hand, which is 4.4BB per 100 hand

I got like 20$ from daily leaderboard, i could place better but i think 40-50$ easily achievable if you play like 3k+ hands but if you play 1.5k hands 20$ so lets count 20$ per 1500 hand is 0.13$ per hand which is 1.33$ per 100 hand which is 2.66BB per 100hand

Now lets guess how much can i get everyday average $ from GG 100,000$ daily flipouts, this one is hard to answer but i think daily average 15-20$ is easily achievable, lets roughly say 20$ if i play 3000 hands thats 0.0066$ per hand thats 0.66 per 100 hand which is 1.32BB/100

Lets count now:

+4.4BB/100 from rakeback
+2.66BB/100 from daily leaderboards
+1.32BB/100 from daily 100,000 flipouts

That's total 8.38BB/100 which i will get back, maybe i can go beyond 10BB+ if i place better in leaderboards i think and if i get lucky to win bad beat jackpot once in a blue moon

Overall if rake was 20BB/100, it becomes 12BB/100 after i get all the benefits, so i still need to beat the game more than 13BB/100 to be profitable

I think people who play 6max instead of 9max and don't 3bet as much as i do, they still get rake at least 11BB/100 instead of whooping 20BB/100 but after all benefits they still need to beat game at least 4BB/100+ to be profitable

Also i forgot about cashdrops, there are randomly cash dropping on the tables i think that can add another 2BB/100

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