My results of grinding 2NL 5NL 10NL 25NL 50NL 100NL

I accept the answer and I have also noticed that some people manage to make a little profit at nl25 levels even though the red line goes into a bad loss. I wanted to give a little tip so you can destroy your opponents even better. gl hf !

This is NL5, i know i can't keep this high winrate, eventually it will go down but i must be doing something right

My 3bet% is 4.8, too low but works well for rake, i want to increase it to 6-7% tho, anyway this is the lowest rake i had so far 13.63BB per 100 hand

Here is an example when i tried to fix my mental game how drastically outcome changes

50k hands of NL5, first half: poker demons were untouchable second half: i was fighting them, look how WR changes

Anyway even in the second half of graph i was still tilting in some hands, gifting stacks for no reason:

Those are nice results. The hands you posted where you "gifted a stack" don't you sometimes click too fast? When I was starting out a couple of years ago I would sometimes spazzcall or jam without really thinking about it twice and this really adds up especially if you are deep. I recommend taking a few seconds to make sure your decision is correct, think it through from different POVs before you make that big call or shove on the River. Mistakes there are really costly.

This is very accurate, i tend to make fast decisions especially when im tilting but in general my playing skill improved a lot while reducing tilt factors.

I'm pretty confident with my game now, only thing that left is to fight tilt demons and also implement some exploitative lines in my game which will target specific bad regs by looking at their stats, i believe reading stats correctly and deciding what is the best way to exploit specific type of player is another skill which needs to be mastered and in this i may need a coach to help me in the future, when i will be close to NL100 probably than.

For now I'm starting new journey, what was in the past matters less, NL5 was successful now NL10 than NL25 etc

Aim: to reach 3k-4,5k hands volume per day

Will be playing like this: 500 hand than rest 15-30min again 500 hand than rest, through the day, maybe taking 1-2h break once to do other things outside of poker.

Tried to increase table count from 9 to 12, felt no pressure, than tested adding another +2 table, 14 tabling was easy too but had to make fast decisions in the end i had losing session, i didnt even lose big pot but in the end had 3BI downswing, so i guess 12 table is the sweet spot

Just be careful. Most people overvalue stats massively with small samples. You need REALLY REALLY large samples (tens of thousands of hands) on a player before you can judge some of their postflop stats (especially those that relate to a specific action which only happens every few orbits). Even then, with massive samples you can still have a minimal sample on a specific postflop stat. Even with hundreds of occurrences of said stat, there is absolutely massive standard deviation in the value of the stat.

Most people I talked to massively overvalue stats of specific players. I am very careful with this. If I am looking at stats, I try to look at the stats that are more general and gain sample quickly (VPIP/PFR/bet and then WWSF, Bet river and Fold to R bet etc.) instead of postflop stats (for example flop cbet stats etc.)

Another problem is that a lot of the stats (like the aforementioned flop cbet) are not really telling you much. There are tons of ways you can play your postflop strategy correctly, and these stats can have very different values from reg to reg, and both those regs can be winning using such strategy.

If you are playing anything below 200NL I would highly recommend to focus on playing WELL before playing a lot.

I know this from my own experience because I fell for the same trap. I tried multitabling a ton of tables on micros just to play like **** and not really think deeply about hands. Your goal should pretty much always be to increase the stakes as quickly as possible, then increase your winrate and only THEN increase the volume you play. At least this seems to be the GTO approach if you are trying to be a online pro. I could go in depth on why this is the case, but all in all, be careful and focus more on your decisions than on masstabling. You won't get rich by pumping volume on micros, so might as well just improve, play less tables, think about spots more and eventually move up quicker.

I think 5-6 tables is more than enough for those rake trap micro stakes games.

you could say it's the difference between trying to become a pro and trying to be a pro, as in trying to win as much as possible per day right now...

Yeah all of these are very complicated, thinking about this makes my head to explode, if i was playing in higher stakes i would probably hire a coach and ask him to simplify all of these to breakdown to lines that work very well against some specific opponents

yeah true true but big volume is really fascinating, reduced tables from 12 to 9 again, atm what holds me back is that im too resistant vs big bets and shoves, lets say i hold AK and flopped top pair in 3bet pot, if villain starts betting big or raising and than shoves river i may fold i may not but every time i do call they show sets like almost always and im playing always 200BB deep, so this is the biggest leak i need to fix first because at micros they rarely bluff when they bet big

GG again offered me to change screen name "For better luck" i picked up random Japanese name it sounds cool lol and avatar of a girl to confuse opponents haha

atm grinding 4 tables of NL25 and 5 tables of NL10, trying to fully transition to NL25 again and will post some graphs afterwards

Best of luck in 25nl

Had to withdraw another 400$ for life expenses

Total money withdrawn since 18 January 2024: 2,440$

Now I'm with 450$ roll, already played around 10k hands of NL25, will play a bit more and then gonna post some graphs

Lately i was thinking how to create my own system to periodically withdraw money while grinding, i had to consider:

1. I’m always trying to move up stakes, sometimes shot taking is successful, sometimes not, sometimes even at lower limits things not going in my way, money goes up and down all the time, this is why i need money withdrawal system to make sure no matter what i will benefit during the process

2. This will motivate me to actually play for something, like a work, more i success more i earn and hopefully reach higher limits

For start i will test system like this:

During the day if poker balance is certain amount I will be allowed to withdraw certain amount of money but only once per day

Balance 400$ - 800$ = 50$ withdrawal
Balance 900$ - 1500$ = 100$ withdrawal
Balance 1600$ - 2500$ = 200$ withdrawal
Etc

This will be once per day withdrawal only, if balance shows those numbers, will see how this works in practice and i may change some numbers to improve this system

Ofc if shot takings won’t be successful i will need to grind longer at lower limits but this system will make sure i will be earning money no matter what

This is my result of this month which I'm not very proud of, will try to do better next month, even tho GG took enormous rake i still managed to withdraw 755$ this month (400+355)

Total money withdrawn since 18 January 2024: 2,795$

Looking at biggest NL25 hands which I lost I was playing fancy sometimes, here i was vs a type of reg who is capable of folding QQs a lot vs 5bet shoves, hell even vs 4bets he would fold this, i was 99% sure he would fold but i forgot about position lol it was SB vs BB so he didn't give much respect, plays like this here and there makes me lose too much, will try to do better next month

My previous month was not so good but anyway I posted it, i know here some guys who don't like to post bad results but i want my struggles and bad times to be well documented so one day if i achieve big success it will be through failures, hard work and hard times

Today i will play some more and gonna post graphs of 1-15 Jun (Half Month)

I played around 42k hand Jun 1-15 (GGPoker 9max ante games) will try my best to show better results in the future

During this journey i was changing my playing styles over and over, my goal was to find a style which would be perfect for me, lately i was striving to play safe poker, less risks and more value heavy plays, in my mind this would give me more consistency over long distance but problem with this strategy is that when players stop to give me enough value struggle starts from there.

Every time i changed something in my game in my mind i was thinking, that it would work perfectly but in reality every strategy was far from perfect but the most important thing that I’m proud of is that i was constantly trying to improve, to find a way out, still trying.

Now i understood that key to get value consistently hides in my image, how other players perceive my image, a fish gets paid x100 more than a tight reg when they both get premium hands, because fish has the image of a player who is more likely to put a lot of chips in with the weak hands.

From now on i will be trying to apply new strategy in my game, mainly work towards on red line, introducing more overbets in my game, the goal of this strategy is that when players start to not give value ill just run them over until they get tired and actually start to give action with their mediocre hands, i believe this strategy can be hard to master but once it perfected this will be the style which will guarantee me to move higher stakes

At the moment doesn’t matter what stakes i play or the results, or what people think, or the graphs, nothing matters, i will be moving towards my goal like a robot, gonna break the wall if it’s needed, i will be fully concentrated to put a lot of volume to try my new style and will be updating this thread with the results.

Goal: play at least 50k hand on each limit starting from NL2 and move up gradually while testing new strategy, will post the graphs.

Maybe it was bad idea to start from NL2 with my new strategy 😃 😃 😃 but it's okay will make it work on every stake

I'm excited with this new challenge mainly because i will try to conquer every single stake starting from the lowest and document the process, highest stake i played in the past was NL100 but i hope i can surpass that in this challenge but now NL2 gets little boring zZzZzZzZz

I know i said 50k hand for every single stake but mission NL2 can be fine with 25k hands to not waste much time, as 9max games takes longer than 6max but I'm speed running the challenge putting a lot of volume.

After rake of 17.15BB per 100 hand this is my winrate, for NL2 it can be low but still fine for GG because i think i got other rewards too which is probably more than 10BB per 100 hand maybe even more because i was getting like 17$-25$+ flipout prizes daily etc etc

As you can see my aggression is over 60, never been so high, this might not be best for NL2 as players tend to call down more light but anyway as i said i will play super aggro at all stakes and won't change it because this is my new strategy, anyway I'm happy that i started from NL2 because i made some nasty 200BB blunders many times, as volume grows i try to reduce blunders and perfect my strategy, okay mission NL2 is completed.

Next mission: NL5

What a disgusting start, both hands vs same donk player, it hurts

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GG Poker - $0.05 Ante $0.02 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 195.4 BB
a1cbabd4 (SB): 297.4 BB
c73111d0 (BB): 212 BB
6cc899b2 (UTG): 208.2 BB
9ed7b0e8 (UTG+1): 194.8 BB
8551cfd3 (MP): 221.4 BB
c3b53c96 (CO): 206.8 BB

7 players post ante of 0.4 BB, a1cbabd4 posts SB 0.4 BB, c73111d0 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 4.2 BB) Hero has 5♠ 2♣

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3.6 BB, a1cbabd4 calls 3.2 BB, c73111d0 calls 2.6 BB

Flop: (13.6 BB, 3 players) J♥ 9♠ 6♥
a1cbabd4 checks, c73111d0 checks, Hero bets 4.8 BB, a1cbabd4 calls 4.8 BB, c73111d0 calls 4.8 BB

Turn: (28 BB, 3 players) 4♠
a1cbabd4 checks, c73111d0 checks, Hero bets 35.2 BB, fold, c73111d0 calls 35.2 BB

River: (98.4 BB, 2 players) 7♥
c73111d0 checks, Hero bets 123.2 BB, c73111d0 calls 123.2 BB

Hero shows 5♠ 2♣ (High Card, Jack)
(Pre 33%, Flop 18%, Turn 23%)
c73111d0 shows Q♣ T♠ (High Card, Queen)
(Pre 67%, Flop 82%, Turn 77%)
c73111d0 wins 329 BB

now THAT'S a hand.

5 day in a row 0$ from flipouts, never happened such thing in the past, my winrate is improved lately while winning less flipouts what a coincidence