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Assuming the 50% 50% split is correct for the situation, what do you think should happen if you shift from raising turn 5% of the time (let's say this is optimal) to 15% of the time? Do you just add random medium strength hands that can't get called by worse (not value) to the value portion or value (mostly nutty hands) that can get called by worse?

Well, i take all my strong value ranges and divide them proportionally into betting, raising and calling ranges, calling range can be a little unbalanced, i think better is to balance betting and raising ranges perfectly and apply some minimum defensive strategy in calling range

Its not like there will be no nutty hands there at all but weak value hands like third pair or such they are too many and it’s really hard to balance perfectly but to defend calling range is more easy in general if villain not go crazy like bet bet shove every hand and you need to give up some hands that’s a sacrifice, a well planned sacrifice that you fold some hands

I never said to increase frequency, i said villain will increase HIS fold frequency because pool is nitty

I don't think your work is useless btw. I think you can learn a lot by doing what you are doing.

So you do mean you don't adjust to their overfolding? Just raising the normal frequency you would vs a balanced player as well?

I think I made this chat more difficult than it should be. Maybe because I got confused about the balance example vs a nitty pool. Did you mean you can play the same strategy vs everyone but your redline winnings would just be higher vs nitty opponents and lower vs balanced opponents?

Yes this is what i meant, my frequencies will be the same vs all opponents but they who fold more will get auto crushed

I prefer strategy to be based more on defense like Floyd Mayweather style, once you’re confident that your defense is so good that they can’t hurt you, from there many attack opportunities will occur due to player mistakes, id happily give some EV to be just consistent

I think it's good that you're making a strategy and you're certainly learning from it. But wouldn't it be better to get maximum profit with the best hands that produce the most?

Most profit comes from AA/KK anyway but not in SRP, if you play AA/KK in SRP like you play in 4bet pot you won’t produce maximum profit

you DO NOT need to play balanced against fish

Really weird. I just don't understand why you're removing the best value hands on the flop. overpair btn vs sb in srp is often the best hand on the flop too. I think you're putting yourself in a tough spot on later streets if you let villain go for free on the flop. bettin the flop you get value for your hand and information about villain's range if he just calls or reraises.

Of course it's good to have some strong hands that you can check back with, but I don't recommend it with overpairs, but rather top pair with decent kickers.

ps. One of my favorite strategies for BUTTON vs sb wit overpair is BET HUGE on the flop and check back the turn and bluff catch the river vs fish
of course it depends on the later streets but on many boards

I prefer to bet flop with lets say JJ TT because they need more protection there is high chance overcard will hit turn but i can check flop with KK/AA, i know you want to bet everything but thats not how balance works

You play like chinese fishes who always check back those top pairs and give me free straights and sets later streets. You are not alone BLazar there are many people who make the same mistake as you. Iwill profit for that =) GL wit that stra

The difference is chinese fishes don’t have strategy behind it and they don’t know how to continue after flop check

Is there any updated graph?

Not yet, i need some more days to finish with my strategy and i will actively post graphs afterwards

AA and KK are hands that are getting checked at a low frequency in a balanced strategy, so that's not a mistake in general. But I'm pretty sure it's a mistake vs passive weak players, especially vs someone that has a flatting range SBvBTN with a half stack (likely a fish). If you think they always have the nuts when they raise and play really straight forward, why not bet every street until they raise (vs a half stack you probably should never fold with Tx and better though unless dicy runout)? You really want to get that stack in the middle by the river vs Tx/9x and other showdown value.

As a rule of thumb usually i don’t go above 30-40bb value with overpairs in SRP, i believe if i try to force more it will start worse hands to fold and better hands to call

funny, i guess you have no idea that solver plays exactly like that it certain spots in single raised pots especially, having the highest bet freq. with the lowest overpairs and the highest checkbehind frequency (of overpairs) with AA?

everyone has their own arbitrary poker ideology here, it's kind of refreshing

I know that solver want to check almost whole range on that flop but i would still build pot against tight passive players in microstakes. Solver would bet more likely QJs,KJs,JJ,K8s type of hands.

Thinking more about that situation vs fish and Fish range. Check back on flop (toppairs) in srp vs passive fish is not so big deal btn and cutoff. Sorry for the bad comment, I won't comment on other people's hands anymore because it's a complete waste of time, especially when you don't know anything about your opponent.

Actually i don’t have solver subscription to check stuff like that but i went to that decision with logic like mid overpairs need more protection and top overpairs need less protection, glad someone confirmed that my play wasn’t totally out of line but even if it was i still believe solvers measure everything according to strategy, if my play fits well in my strategy and solver says its a no no it doesn’t particularly mean that play is bad just it doesn’t fit in solvers strategy imo

That opponent has a really small stack (50bb), so I'm not at all sure if it's still worth playing like that, even with a gto approach. Maybe someone who have solver could give as solver approach against shallow stack.

I made a quick solve BTNvBB 50bb stacks, which you can learn more from vs a unicorn spot where a 50bb stack flats SBvBTN. Overpairs never check in this solve, a tiny bit of checking with AT and a bit more with KT and so on. Solver uses the huge sizing with overpairs as well and sizes down with weaker value and nuts that block Tx & 9x. But as could be guessed solver just doesn't like checking strong unblocking hands like overpairs when they don't need to control the pot this shallow on a rainbow flop.

Great. Thanks for the confirmation!

I was already starting to doubt my own thoughts. Now I feel like a real solver!