2024 ELECTION THREAD

I am familiar with the fact that Biden DOJ didn't pursue anything so nothing illegal was found, as ecriture admitted, so every claim about any criminal event related to Russia and trump was an hoax.

I care less than nothing about non criminal determinations, if something isn't a crime it can't be a relevant deal definitionally

No one serious ever thought that.

By that nonsensical logic Nixon didn't do anything illegal either.

well he got pardoned before that could be assessed but yes he was the victim of a coup, is that even controversial?

There is absolutely no reason that Trump's election denial, tactics and failures can not be commented on by Democrats. Another completely ridiculous assertion by the Italian fascist.

Amongst the dumbest of conservative hacks it is not controversial. Would be hard to find anyone that went to college that agreed with it though.

Russiagate was just a ploy to get the Democrats on board with cold war 2.0.

Republicans go after China and the Democrats go after Russia. Each side gets their own special enemy. It's not really too complicated.

so no one serious ever believed the Steele dossier?

You claimed Trump didn't commit a crime by dint of not being prosecuted by the next administration. I showed you an example of another President who committed a crime who wasn't prosecuted by the next administration, thus demonstrating that your logic is nonsense.

their tribe candidate did believe it

he was pardoned. Nixon was pardoned otherwise it would have been automatically prosecuted.

trump had no pardon, he wasn't prosecuted.

are you going to claim Garland committed an exceptionally severe dereliction of duty by not prosecuting criminal charges of Russia collusion for Trump? if the claim had any legs it would have been a first order priority to prosecute it

Surprised you remember her random first amendment protected statements given you care less than nothing about stuff that isn't criminal. Oh right you're a hack

No one here that I recall. I certainly was highly skeptical.

Agent and puppet are not synonymous. I shouldn't be surprised this needs to be explained to you.

It’ll never stop being funny to me the way they reframe what this was to make it look like it was a total sham

‘Russiagate’ refers to an effort by Russia to influence the election to get Trump elected through their troll farm efforts and through influence via campaign members

This has been proven to be true. People have been convicted because this has been proven to be true. This is not subject to debate unless you’re just a brainless malcontent

This has never been about trump being some Manchurian candidate

Nixon was pardoned by Ford specifically so that Nixon couldn't be prosecuted. Both administrations chose not to prosecute the prior criminal president - one via the pardon, the other by simply not prosecuting. What part of that are you having trouble understanding?

I'm guessing that Victor assigns responsibility for starting the war in Ukraine as follows:

Ukraine -- 25%
NATO -- 60%
Putin government -- 15%

Here's a little exercise for those posters obviously still confused regarding the Russia collusion hoax.

How many people from Trump's campaign were convicted of conspiring with Russia to influence the election?

If the answer is zero, then it was a hoax.

If it was one or more, then it wasn't a hoax.

Hope that helps.

Nixon was a republican that got pardoned by a republican.

trump was called by democrats Hitler and a threat to the nation and democracy and prosecuted at the state and at the federal level by democrats for other stuff (in some cases very flimsy stuff )so if they had ANYTHING to cling on from the Mueller report they 100% would have used it without any doubt, and it's kinda insane you even trying to claim otherwise.

It sounds like this is a general rule for you, no matter the topic. And the logic should be far more compelling in cases where there was a conviction. So let's give it a try. Here are some names to get you started -- Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos, Rick Gates.

many many people from the trump campaign received consequences from the Mueller investigation, including people Trump pardoned.

the fact is there was very little leverage left once Biden got into power because the people that would have been needed to prove a criminal conspiracy were already pardoned or took plea deals.

most criminal conspiracies are very complex cases that require people to flip. so even though the mueller investigation showed a lot of bad behavior on the part of Trump and his campaign, including criminal behavior that was prosecuted, at the end of the day there was little maneuvering left for garland due to the factors above.

capone was a brutal mobster but the government got him for tax evasion. does that mean that he wasn’t a brutal mobster since they couldn’t prove he killed anyone and instead got him on a lesser charge?

lolllllllll

Kamala

So OJ being accused of murdering two people was a hoax since he wasn't convicted. Logic checks out.

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