President Elon Musk
He probably deserves his own thread at this point, discuss accordingly
there is no scenario where the Bible being taught as mandated curriculum as opposed to an elective in a government funded public school is even remotely acceptable
Nah. Fundamentalists don’t want christianity taught as just another world religion. It has to be completely separated from other myths and we have to pretend like a book that describes when it’s ok to beat your slave to death is the authority on morality.
there is no scenario where the Bible being taught as mandated curriculum as opposed to an elective in a government funded public school is even remotely acceptable
A college course on the Bible would be interesting and teach a bunch of useful research and source analysis type skills. But again with a place like Oklahoma and other rural areas it would be nice if high school grads had jr high level math and reading skills. And religion or the bible are not going to help those deficiencies.
Again yes u can but I had those courses in high school 40 years ago and it didn’t bring anything at all to me and many others.
It was more a relaxing period the anything else lol….
Even a modern civility course would of been much more to the point then that
Ps : i would rather had a course on how to drive or how to defend myself with martial art course for example then that stupid religion course shrug.
The good news is they cancel it in Quebec tho I didn’t follow up much for what …
https://globalnews.ca/news/6646996/end-o...
But after years of relentless criticism from Quebec nationalists and committed secularists who say the ethics and religious culture course is peddling a multiculturalist view to impressionable young Quebecers, the provincial government is abolishing the course.
there is no scenario where the Bible being taught as mandated curriculum as opposed to an elective in a government funded public school is even remotely acceptable
Never said it should be mandated. And religious studies shouldn't be exclusive to Christianity. I just don't think teachers should have to side-step the subject. In social studies, it should be okay to talk about the Reformation and Vatican II. In English, it should be okay to discuss the religious themes in The Lord of the Rings and A Tale of Two Cities. I don't see the point of keeping kids ignorant about these things. If we were to introduce philosophy classes, should religious arguments be omitted?
Technically, most of that is allowed, but with how things are, it doesn't (and can't) really happen. Like ecriture d'adulte said, there are too many fundamentalists that would oppose anything that contradicts their worldview. Where we differ is that I think elements of the left are just as obstructive.
Oklahoma is trying to mandate the Bible somehow being brought into curriculum even though it has very little direct historical value, virtually no teachers can read it in Hebrew or Greek...
Now that's a spicy take. The Bible is inarguably the most influential piece of literature in Western history, you can't understand much of ~1,500 years of European art history/culture without a rough understanding of it. And you certainly don't need to read Hebrew to teach a HS-level survey unit.
Obv the reason it's a bad idea to implement this is because Oklahoma Republicans want to teach the Bible as scripture and not as a literary/historical work.
Never said it should be mandated. And religious studies shouldn't be exclusive to Christianity. I just don't think teachers should have to side-step the subject. In social studies, it should be okay to talk about the Reformation and Vatican II. In English, it should be okay to discuss the religious themes in The Lord of the Rings and A Tale of Two Cities. I don't see the point of keeping kids ignorant about these things. If we were to introduce philosophy classes, should religious arguments be o
And the bold is a problem because leftist ideology works exactly like religion (absolute value claims which can't be contested, sacred holy books which content is to be believed and so on) but it doesn't register as that technically/legally so the left is allowed to push it's religious ideology in schools which is atrocious and has devastating consequences for society (like ending up with students believing police kills "thousands" of unarmed black people per year, or that using plastic will bring about an apocalypse that will make the world inhabitable because the climate, or other absurd nonsense like that, which has political consequences).
And mind, leftist religious ideas are FAR more dangerous for society than the most bigoted rightwing idea can ever be.
A creationist is objectively far less of a threat to others in society than a socialist.
And the bold is a problem because leftist ideology works exactly like religion (absolute value claims which can't be contested, sacred holy books which content is to be believed and so on) but it doesn't register as that technically/legally so the left is allowed to push it's religious ideology in schools which is atrocious and has devastating consequences for society (like ending up with students believing police kills "thousands" of unarmed black people per year, or that using plastic will bri
I was only speaking in regard to religion. There are secular new atheist types that would consider teaching about it to be promotion rather than education, and they're very loud.
We thought we only had one leader who's not afraid to speak his mind, but that was until Elon came into the picture ...
And the bold is a problem because leftist ideology works exactly like religion (absolute value claims which can't be contested, sacred holy books which content is to be believed and so on) but it doesn't register as that technically/legally so the left is allowed to push it's religious ideology in schools which is atrocious and has devastating consequences for society (like ending up with students believing police kills "thousands" of unarmed black people per year, or that using plastic will bri
Not surprising from someone not trusting science ….
And yet u believe talibans and the likes (which if Christian would surely be creationists) are a problem (big?) in the world ?
So if I get this right logically, U.S. democrats and all left leaning people are worst then talibans and and all other theocracies ?
You’re a sick puppy…
We thought we only had one leader who's not afraid to speak his mind, but that was until Elon came into the picture ...
Your prize of his reaction but then u raise the flag shame if ever a democrats wouldever call a republican idiot ….
Ah yes it’s ok when it comes from your side but only them it’s acceptable .
True freedom of speech ….
Not surprising from someone not trusting science ….
And yet u believe talibans and the likes (which if Christian would surely be creationists) are a problem (big?) in the world ?
So if I get this right logically, U.S. democrats and all left leaning people are worst then talibans and and all other theocracies ?
You’re a sick puppy…
The Talibans are super leftists as is everyone who wants a strong state to achieve capillar control of society for any goal whatsoever (in the Talibans case, guarantee application of insane sharia norms).
If you want a strong state able to control every aspect of society you are very leftist no matter which ends you want to achieve with the state.
Hope that helps
Your prize of his reaction but then u raise the flag shame if ever a democrats wouldever call a republican idiot ….
Ah yes it’s ok when it comes from your side but only them it’s acceptable .
True freedom of speech ….
I never said I condoned this behavior, but for someone with all the money in the world I guess he thinks different .
We thought we only had one leader who's not afraid to speak his mind, but that was until Elon came into the picture ...
Man he is answering a complete nobody, that's not being brave like when he rightly insulted the monstrous fascist eu commissioner, this is just a lowlevel, very undignified, answer to a random user of his site having an opinion he disagrees with
I never said I condoned this behavior, but for someone with all the money in the world I guess he thinks different .
I think he is sleeping very little and using enhancing drugs of some kind necessarily (can't achieve those results in Diablo and PoE while having jobs otherwise), and what we are witnessing in the inexcusable exchange you reported is just the side effects of that
I think he is sleeping very little and using enhancing drugs of some kind necessarily (can't achieve those results in Diablo and PoE while having jobs otherwise), and what we are witnessing in the inexcusable exchange you reported is just the side effects of that
Or maybe he just likes being the world's richest internet troll.
Even a troll is better at picking his targets.
A random completely unknown member of the opposite tribe isn't a good target for a troll.
And in case you want to target him, you go very differently with shaming of body, or curriculum or whatever if you want to troll, not with that low IQ low effort 4chan 12y comment.
Not surprising from someone not trusting science ….
And yet u believe talibans and the likes (which if Christian would surely be creationists) are a problem (big?) in the world ?
So if I get this right logically, U.S. democrats and all left leaning people are worst then talibans and and all other theocracies ?
You’re a sick puppy…
Those are some interesting leaps.
As long as it gets views...
And in case you want to target him, you go very differently with shaming of body, or curriculum or whatever if you want to troll, not with that low IQ low effort 4chan 12y comment.
That's been his MO for years.
The Talibans are super leftists as is everyone who wants a strong state to achieve capillar control of society for any goal whatsoever (in the Talibans case, guarantee application of insane sharia norms).
If you want a strong state able to control every aspect of society you are very leftist no matter which ends you want to achieve with the state.
Hope that helps
No it’s doesn’t !
Hope that helps .
To claim theocracies are leftish , lol .
Taliban are super leftish ?
well I guess you believe how they treat woman for example is what the left prone ?
And yet it’s the right usually that try to control woman bodies …
Please tell which policies from talibans you recognize has left ?
The Taliban returned Afghanistan to many policies implemented under its previous rule, including banning women from holding almost any jobs, requiring women to wear head-to-toe coverings such as the burqa, blocking women from travelling without male guardians, banning female speech and banning all education for girls
Tell me how talibans usually feel about homosexuality?
Does that sound leftish to you ?
Left isn’t about methods of governing (all extreme government uses the same tools) it’s about the idea behind the policies ….
Would you like me to enumerate to you strong government regime that belong to the right ?
The Talibans are super leftists as is everyone who wants a strong state to achieve capillar control of society.
Of all the dumb things you have posted, this one wins the lifetime achievement award. The Taliban are in the “make men great again” cult which is made up of the MAGA cult’s Neanderthal relatives.
