British Politics

British Politics

Been on holiday for a few weeks, surprised to find no general discussion of British politics so though I'd kick one off.

01 June 2019 at 06:29 AM
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by 57 On Red

There may be a lot of changed minds (possibly a third of Leave voters within a few years of the referendum), plus by now a large die-off, with older Leave voters progressively replaced by the newly enfranchised and more Europe-minded young.

https://ejpr.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi...

I think trump and putin have focused a lot of minds on the need to be closer to our allies.


by Luciom

From what I read he got diagnosed years after having being hired.And basically the judge claims after the diagnosis what were evident poor work ethic elements and would be very normal elements for dismissal without the diagnosis, couldn't be used anymore because it's discrimination, as those behavioral aberrations are linked purportedly to the diagnosis.A legal system that make

Again, it's a poor judgement and the employer should appeal. The Equality Act is a bad and problematic piece of law in all sorts of ways, but it shouldn't prevent a judge from distinguishing between reasonable discrimination (which is lawful) and unreasonable discrimination (which isn't). It's a problem of current legal-profession culture. The recent and reasonable Supreme Court clarification of what sex is, within the meaning of the Act, may be a tipping point. Though I won't hold my breath.


by chezlaw

I think trump and putin have focused a lot of minds on the need to be closer to our allies.

That too.


by chezlaw

I think trump and putin have focused a lot of minds on the need to be closer to our allies.

Brexit was a referendum on immigration above everything else. It was wrong for it to be that, it was the wrong way to address the topic and the wrong way to frame the relationship with the EU, but it ended up being about that.

And a lot of people just realized that eastern Europe immigration was very far from being the worst immigration possible.


CORBS has apparently wound up his investigation into the identity of the producer of novichok, and has some spare time

he's using it to launch a new political party!

LOL GREENS


Grunching. Just read about this on DER SPIEGEL and wanted to say Bravo, hope to follow you soon! 😀


It is a rare moment of hope.

Made me laugh that the first service of our new Great British Railways was a replacement bus service


Hopefully it will lead to better, cheaper railways and actually offer a viable alternative for between-city transport that's more cost-effective vs cars.


by BOIDS

CORBS has apparently wound up his investigation into the identity of the producer of novichok, and has some spare time

he's using it to launch a new political party!

LOL GREENS

Always entertaining to hear from Aaron Bastani.


by diebitter

Hopefully it will lead to better, cheaper railways and actually offer a viable alternative for between-city transport that's more cost-effective vs cars.

Never understood how privatization would make railways better anyway. I think it's just best run as a monopoly over an area/country; even in the US there's only Amtrak left for national passenger transport. And then it might as well be run by the government.


Privatisation of the railways and utilities was never meant to improve services or prices.


by Morphismus

Never understood how privatization would make railways better anyway. I think it's just best run as a monopoly over an area/country; even in the US there's only Amtrak left for national passenger transport. And then it might as well be run by the government.

Idea is ownership of the tracks is the monopoly, servicing trains using those tracks isn't.

Germany has private fleets using public tracks for example.

The problem with trains (like the post office, and other services) is that some areas are utterly unprofitable to serve at any reasonable price, others are very profitable even at reasonable prices.

So the gvmnt should intervene subsidizing coverage of unprofitable areas under a concept of "as a state we want capillarity of service". But the operational side itself, as everything, is worse when publicly managed.


by Luciom

Idea is ownership of the tracks is the monopoly, servicing trains using those tracks isn't.

Germany has private fleets using public tracks for example.

Yeah and it's ****!


by diebitter

Hopefully it will lead to better, cheaper railways and actually offer a viable alternative for between-city transport that's more cost-effective vs cars.

"simpler ticketing", but nothing about cost. The problem is when I can get in my car, drive and park for cheaper than the train, then I'm not going to use it and neither is anyone else.


What? If you could drive at 125mph or for a long period without feeling tired then maybe you’d have a point.


I always prefer the train but if there's a few of you the cost can be insane compared to even hiring a car (I dont own one).

Needs to be treated as prized national infrastructure pursuing excellence and being subsidised. The return on that subsidy is massive.


by chezlaw

I always prefer the train but if there's a few of you the cost can be insane compared to even hiring a car (I dont own one).

Needs to be treated as prized national infrastructure pursuing excellence and being subsidised. The return on that subsidy is massive.

Andreotti once said that there were 2 types of crazy people: those who thought they were Napoleon, and those who thought they could fix the national public railways.


It's not Italy. The system generally works. Ticketing system, subsidy and more investment will 'fix' it. None of that is remotely tricky let along impossible.

There's intermediate stuff like improving how we get to the trains stations but lots can be done.

Then there' the difficult stuff like new lines but that's not a new problem.


by Luciom

Andreotti once said that there were 2 types of crazy people: those who thought they were Napoleon, and those who thought they could fix the national public railways.

Ah Andreotti. Another mafioso lol


by chezlaw

I always prefer the train but if there's a few of you the cost can be insane compared to even hiring a car (I dont own one).

I agree. I always used to always take the train until I moved to where I am now. The journey was 40 mins, plus 10 mins walk to and from the station, but I could sit and work stress free and it cost under a tenner return.

if that was the standard experience for commuters, I think a lot of people would give up their cars.




JFC anyone but that chancer Farage


Yes it currently looks like anyone but Badenoch but Farage.

The way our national and international politics are right now it could all change though.

You sound a little less convinced by Farage than you were in 2016.


by jalfrezi

Well, that's mildly reassuring, though the snake-oil-seller's figures are still uncomfortably high, even if the other contenders are admittedly no great shakes.


by jalfrezi

Yes it currently looks like anyone but Badenoch but Farage.

The way our national and international politics are right now it could all change though.

You sound a little less convinced by Farage than you were in 2016.

lol I loathe the man, he's a twat.

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