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British Politics

Been on holiday for a few weeks, surprised to find no general discussion of British politics so though I'd kick one off.

01 June 2019 at 06:29 AM
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It dates back to New Labour ducking the hard decisions. Continued by the tories

Focus groups didn't like power stations. Spinning bollocks was far more voter friendly


by bundy5

In 4 weeks time I'm about to grace the UK with my presence and cannot believe the cost of catching the train between cities. Even with the time saved (albeit it is about 1 to 1.5 hours depending on where I am going) it is far cheaper to catch a coach bus. I found that 15 years ago when I was last there and things haven't changed and in fact have got much worse there are no save

Worth knowing that when the train is cancelled/delayed you can claim a lot of the money back.


by jalfrezi

Coaches have always been a lot cheaper than trains which is reasonable when they usually take a lot longer.

No - even taking into account that they take longer buses are still the more economical choice - especially when bus fares are like 20 to 25% off the cost and a train at most may save you 40 to 50% of the travel time (for mine most of my trips it was probably saving me closer to 30% of the travel time).

by chezlaw

Worth knowing that when the train is cancelled/delayed you can claim a lot of the money back.

Probably more relevant in winter. But yeah that would help particularly if you are pushed for time.


by Luciom

It's also the only country there afaik actively pursuing the utterly, absurdly ******edly insane net0

Why aren't we on here? We are definitely not cheap. (although it is a disgrace that we aren't given how much gas we have in this country - we just don't keep any of it for ourselves and we export most of it. Idiots).

by Luciom

It's also the only country there afaik actively pursuing the utterly, absurdly ******edly insane net0

No we are too - and it is absurd that we are because we are losing so much manufacturing as a result and what are China and India doing to reduce emissions?


by chezlaw

It dates back to New Labour ducking the hard decisions. Continued by the tories

Focus groups didn't like power stations. Spinning bollocks was far more voter friendly

Question re Hinkley - is France causing the delays and over runs intentionally to make importing nuclear energy more competitive in the future that no future nuclear projects will ever be pursued by the UK government?


by bundy5

Question re Hinkley - is France causing the delays and over runs intentionally to make importing nuclear energy more competitive in the future that no future nuclear projects will ever be pursued by the UK government?

Nah it's just incredibly big and complicated with the usual 'delusions' about how much it will cost and how long it will take. I say 'delusions' but it's the systemic way governments (and companies) lie to themsleves about big projects.


by bundy5

Why aren't we on here? We are definitely not cheap. (although it is a disgrace that we aren't given how much gas we have in this country - we just don't keep any of it for ourselves and we export most of it. Idiots).

No we are too - and it is absurd that we are because we are losing so much manufacturing as a result and what are China and India doing to reduce emissions?

Wait which is country is "we" in this post?


Oz, going by the Holden car in bundy's avatar pic.


Ballymena enters its second day of anti migrant riots after two Romanian teens charged with raping a 13-year-old

Fillipino migrant has his car burned out and his home attacked

And yet more migrants homes attacked for good measure.




Labour is “staking everything” on using billions of pounds of investment to reverse Britain’s decline, Angela Rayner has said, promising people would feel the housing crisis ease by the end of the parliament.

The UK housing secretary is now in a race to persuade housing associations to take on social housing projects, with nearly £40bn for affordable and social homes to be spent over 10 years, the culmination of lengthy negotiations with the Treasury.

She admitted it was the start of a long road to attract associations under huge financial pressures to invest again in social housing. Many are turning down opportunities from developers when they offer section 106 homes as part of their social housing obligations.

Rayner said it was still unclear whether the majority of the homes would be for social rent. “We’re prioritising social rent,” she said. “Now we’ve got to go away and do some of the work with the social landlords.


Starmer adopts another policy of the "far-right".


Ah, back on to Elrazors favourite subject.


and mine. Spineless starmer appeasing reform again


The far right, like Elrazor, will be eagerly hoping a disproportionate number of first or second generation migrants from Pakistan were involved.

It’s has nothing to do with caring about child safety and everything to do with their usual agenda of smearing immigrants as criminals.


Independent of that, starmer clearly didn't think it was a good idea and is once again just so cowardly and unprincipled.


True but pointing that out is like saying that Thatcher was shrill in tone: everyone across the political spectrum is quite aware of it.




Stopping any grooming gangs is totally about child safety, and anyone who does not want to get these gangs taken down as early as possible, and get the authorities suitable protocols for rapid detecting and arrest (and holding those authorities responsible when they do not act for whatever reason) is, at best, grandstanding their own political viewpoints whilst accusing others of doing the same over the safety and protection of vulnerable youngsters.


Taking action is generaly the antithesis of national enquiries. We've all watched yes minister

Had to snort at badenough saying starmer should apologise for saying tories jumped on the far-right bandwagon over this. Only apology needed is if he elbowed some of them when he leapt on.


Not the result some are looking for



by diebitter

Stopping any grooming gangs is totally about child safety, and anyone who does not want to get these gangs taken down as early as possible, and get the authorities suitable protocols for rapid detecting and arrest (and holding those authorities responsible when they do not act for whatever reason) is, at best, grandstanding their own political viewpoints whilst accusing others

The far left have always had a soft spot for paedophiles, so no surprise to see them grandstanding about this.

It's obviously about those things you have said, but it's also about taking down those who failed to protect vulnerable children and allowed this abuse to happen in the name of DEI.


by jalfrezi

Not the result some are looking for

I guess some, but virtually everyone else wants these scum detected and taken down as quickly as possible.

I really can't see why you want make abstract points about race here, scum is scum, and no one should be protected when they do this.


by chezlaw

Taking action is generaly the antithesis of national enquiries. We've all watched yes minister

I agree, but anything that eventually makes it clear that anyone not acting when they know this is happening are accountable is really needed. I would prefer urgently, but if 'eventually' is the only real option, then that's better than allowing systematic raping to continue to be ignored without consequences.

That's the sort of **** that allows the far-right scum to garner votes.


I agree on holding responsible people to account and I support mandatory reporting. On child grooming and much more

Hard to see a national enquiry doing anything but hindering that. I can understand some people might disagree but Starmer isn't one of them.

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