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Been on holiday for a few weeks, surprised to find no general discussion of British politics so though I'd kick one off.

01 June 2019 at 06:29 AM
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If I had to choose from the possible contenders, I'd also pick Cooper.


That's funny, I thought you were in favour of some left wing policies, yet you're supporting a potential candidate from the right.

Cooper offers nothing that Starmer doesn't ie nothing at all but continuation of the status quo and the ensured satisfaction of their paymasters.


I doubt they would go with cooper because her abuse of terrorism powers means she has no chance in bringing back enough of the left they need to save their seats.

I think they could convince themselves that streeting might. He at least hasn't supported cooper's disgrace.


Maybe if he continues reminding us that he was brought up in a council flat some people will fall for his shtick while he sells off the NHS to US private corporations and does nothing to help the lower paid, I don't know.

The most right wing of my group of old friends was brought up in a council flat in Bow. Working class Tories are the worst. Having sold out their parents' values they are completely amoral and governed only by self-interest.


Streeting reminds me of Jenrick. They might get decent social media traction, but they both come across to me like smug, arrogant arseholes.


Neither has any principles, that's for sure.


Talking of which...


An Islamic prayer room in Blackburn was fire bombed today. Mainstream news services have completely ignored it.

Now imagine it was a synagogue.


Reform seem to be claiming, as they have for some time, that the massive £5m bung from the offshore crypto billionaire bloke didn't have to be reported because it was for Nigel's personal security and it was (only just) before he became an MP, so that's fine.

The trouble is that MPs have to report any substantial emoluments or donations in the 12 months before they enter Parliament, and there is no exclusion clause for 'security' and no actual evidence that that is what the donation was for.

In addition, the Home Office offered and provided protection to Farage during the 2024 election campaign because of multiple occasions when objects were thrown at him. Reform complain that his ongoing protection detail was scaled back by the Parliamentary Security Committee last October, but it's obviously not true that he has no official security cover.

And then there's the matter of his late reporting of over £380,000 to the Register of Interests this January, which has triggered a separate investigation by the standards commissioner.


Streeting's going to run. Not sure that a bloke with a 528 majority over a 25-year-old Palestinian activist is an altogether sound candidate. Perhaps he thinks that if he gets to No.10 he'll be offered a safe seat, but there aren't really any safe seats any more. (This may also be a problem for the King of the North.)

Streeting has a further little local difficulty over his Mandelson connection. In any case we know that changing the leader doesn't work, especially as a panic measure (deckchairs on doomed ocean liners and all that), and the markets don't like it, which increases the government's cost of borrowing, and it's just generally not a great idea given the lack of replacement ministerial talent out there.


The markets might like it if the government put more money into the hands of those in most need of it, stimulating the economy, and paid for it by taking away some of the tax cuts that the wealthy have enjoyed that they’ve largely squirrelled away or spent on property or abroad.

Unfortunately this calls for a Labour candidate who doesn’t actually exist.


Burnham linked with this seat



by jalfrezi

An Islamic prayer room in Blackburn was fire bombed today. Mainstream news services have completely ignored it.

Now imagine it was a synagogue.

I'd imagine if it was a synagogue you'd have nothing to say about it, just like you had nothing to say about any of the recent antisemitic hate crimes, other than to offer some mealy-mouthed excuses and whataboutisms.


by 57 On Red

Streeting's going to run. Not sure that a bloke with a 528 majority over a 25-year-old Palestinian activist is an altogether sound candidate. Perhaps he thinks that if he gets to No.10 he'll be offered a safe seat, but there aren't really any safe seats any more. (This may also be a problem for the King of the North.) Streeting has a further little local difficulty over his Man

I'm not saying it will work but I think many in labour will convince themselves that Streeting has done (or will do) enough in positioning himself on Gaza to win his seat comfortably next time.

His chances may depend on how much starmer dislikes him. If Streeting forces an election and Kier realises it's game over then he could **** him by announcing a timetable that allows time for burnham to return.


by jalfrezi

An Islamic prayer room in Blackburn was fire bombed today. Mainstream news services have completely ignored it.

Now imagine it was a synagogue.

Some MSM coverage, but not much. Video of it has already been released, although very low resolution and 2 suspects are covered up so you cant really see anything.

Also, it was a prayer room inside a cafe. It wasn't a mosque.

Also, if it is being downplayed the most likely reason is it is believed whoever did it was brown/black. Very likely some sort of gang/turf war attack. So it is likely being downplayed because it doesn't fit any convenient narrative.


Former Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner has said she has been cleared by HMRC of wrongdoing over her tax affairs.

She said she had been "exonerated" of the accusation she had "deliberately sought to avoid tax" in a statement on Thursday.

Rayner stood down as deputy prime minister in September 2025 after admitting she underpaid stamp duty on her £800,000 flat in Hove.

Rayner is seen as a potential challenger to Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, as he battles to save his premiership following the Labour Party's disastrous local election results.

And, in her Guardian interview, the prime minister's former deputy did not rule out running in any Labour leadership race but said she would not "trigger" a contest.

She said: "I'll play my part in doing everything we possibly can to deliver the change, because it's not a personal ambition, I know the difference it makes."

The news that Rayner had been cleared by HMRC over her tax affairs was first published by the Guardian newspaper and ITV News on Thursday morning.


by Elrazor

I'd imagine if it was a synagogue you'd have nothing to say about it, just like you had nothing to say about any of the recent antisemitic hate crimes, other than to offer some mealy-mouthed excuses and whataboutisms.

As usual you’ve missed the point, which is that there’s no need for me to write a post to decry attacks on synagogues because the whole of the media is doing that. If they were also decrying attacks on Islamic centres I’d have no need to mention those attacks here.

That you refuse to say anything about attacks on an Islamic prayer room speaks volumes about your Islamophobia, Elracist, super thick pseudo academic.

Now get back to whining about how those more appealing foreigners out competed you in the “dating market”, without ever considering how repellant you are to other people, loser.


by jalfrezi

As usual you’ve missed the point, which is that there’s no need for me to write a post to decry attacks on synagogues because the whole of the media is doing that. If they were also decrying attacks on Islamic centres I’d have no need to mention those attacks here.

A week ago you were tripping over yourself to find any evidence that a madman randomly stabbing Jews was not antisemitic:

by jalfrezi

God you're so stupid. The government have effectively declared this an antisemitic event without any investigation

Yet a week later you have implied an attack on a cafe owned by Muslims was a hate crime without any evidence.

So, by your own benchmark, you are stupid. Which of course is a fact we all know, but you are so Dunning-Kruger you remain oblivious.


by chezlaw

I'm not saying it will work but I think many in labour will convince themselves that Streeting has done (or will do) enough in positioning himself on Gaza to win his seat comfortably next time.His chances may depend on how much starmer dislikes him. If Streeting forces an election and Kier realises it's game over then he could **** him by announcing a timetable that allows time

Streetiing has just officially resigned, so it seems to be on. Don't know what Rayner will do, but she's cleared the decks with HMRC. (I doubt they'd be quite so forgiving with the likes of you and me. Just a feeling.)


Labour MPs say Streeting can't directly challenge yet because he hasn't got the 81 signatures, but obviously he's trying to trigger something.


by Elrazor

A week ago you were tripping over yourself to find any evidence that a madman randomly stabbing Jews was not antisemitic:

Yet a week later you have implied an attack on a cafe owned by Muslims was a hate crime.

I didn’t say or import this attack was a hate crime. I did say that wankers like you ignore it because of your deeply embedded Islamophobia, and that if it had been a synagogue you’d have been leaping to the conclusion that it was an anti semitic attack just as you did with the Hendon attacks carried out on the same day as the perpetrator stabbed a Muslim.

For the thicko who also can’t read, this is what I said



by 57 On Red

Labour MPs say Streeting can't directly challenge yet because he hasn't got the 81 signatures, but obviously he's trying to trigger something.

He’s perhaps gone off prematurely but the voting rules have allowed his supporters to canvass for him by telling MPs that if they vote for him in the first round they can always switch after.


Someone (josh simon?) has stood down to let Burnham in


by chezlaw

Someone (josh simon?) has stood down to let Burnham in

It is Josh Simons in Makerfield. Only been there since 2024. There was a 5,400 majority over Reform, down from 13-14,000 over the Tories in the 2010s. It's within Greater Manchester, where Burnham may poll well, though these days who knows. One reason the NEC blocked him last time was a fear that Reform might then win the mayoralty. It could look bad to block him again. Streeting is supposedly engaged in a holding action to allow a Burnham run soon as.



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